Looking for Israel Owen, born 1831. I can only find him from the 1851 census's onwards. He puts down he was born in three different places in each census. They are Crymlyn, Trenant and Bedwelty. I simply can't find him on any census before 1851. Can anyone help, please??

Many thanks

Hi Anne
In answer to your query, Trenant is spelt Trinant, Crymlyn is Crumlin. Trinant and Crumlin are very close to each other. Crumlin is mainly at the bottom of the valley, while Trinant is on the hill above Crumlin. They are both as far as the census is concerned in the district of Bedwellty. i have found an entry in the IGI register for Israel Owen, Christening on 3 Jul 1831 at Nebo Independant Church, Penmaen, Monmouthshire. Father is David owen and mother is Elizabeth. I only know of one church that still exists at penmaen but don't think it is Nebo. There is an alternative place for Nebo Church at a place called locally as Cross Penmaen, which is in fact a short distance from Trinant. it is situated between Trinant and Oakdale. Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you. Regards malcolm.

Dear Malgre77,

Thank so much for this information - and no,I'm not confused about the places. It clears up that mystery.

As for finding Israel's parents, I can't believe it. I thought with a name like Israel, he would be easy to find, but not for me!. So, once again, thank you for taking the trouble to answer my query. Regards, Anne.