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Rev. John Lloyd- Jones, Carnarfon. d.1953. Wife's names

sogrot16 — 2013-05-10 20:00:13Z

To 'winnolds' in particular, but also anyone with an interest in this gentleman Rev. John Lloyd-Jones, a relative of mine and wishes to know the name of his wife.

Barnabas

cazlyons — 2013-04-29 16:53:12Z

Hi

I wonder if anyone can help please? I have Thomas Barnabas, born about 1669 possibly in Clynnog-Fawr, Caernarvonshire. He married Mary Griffith in 1694 and died between 1699 and 1703. I am desperate to move on past him to his ancestors, but am struggling to get the information. Thank you in advance.

Re: Llanfairfechan Jones'

valjdallison — 2013-03-13 16:37:28Z

I too am researching "Jones" from Llanfairfechan. My grandmother was Ellen C Jones who moved to Lancashire sometime after 1911. Her father was Owen and her mother was Margaret ( i suspect this may have been a 2nd marriage for Owen). I would like to get moe information about Owen, his family and grandparents etc. I have found a family which i think may be the right one, but not sure.

Any help ould be appreciated.

Re: Hugh Hughes b 1847 Caernarvonshire, father John Thomas Hughes, help!?

Smith_Teresa — 2013-03-02 11:10:35Z

Thank you so much for that info! I had no idea I could get a refund if not correct Father name. I had images of buying 100 certificates for all the Hugh Hughes' in the region. I think I eliminated the latter 3 you listed by refering to the census's and finding Hugh still in England after my Hugh's arrival in Australia. I will try purchasing a certif or two and cross my fingers they listed father's middle name.
Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
Tess

Re: Mary Owens (B circa 1860, Llanramon)

Huwch — 2013-03-02 07:17:35Z

Thank you.

Re: Mary Owens (B circa 1860, Llanramon)

welshladymegan — 2013-03-02 00:02:04Z

If you have her marriage certificate this will give you her father's name which might help you to track her down.

Re: Hugh Hughes b 1847 Caernarvonshire, father John Thomas Hughes, help!?

welshladymegan — 2013-03-01 23:58:20Z

Based on the date of birth, then it should have been registered in either the April or July quarters of 1847. April quarter would be the most likely.

If he was born in the Caernarvon registration district then the following are possibles:
1847 Qtr Apr Vol 27 Page 343
1847 Qtr Jul Vol 27 Page 313

However, if he was born elsewhere in Caernarvonshire, such as Llanystumdwy, there are other possibilities:
Bangor Registration District 1847 Qtr Apr Vol 27 Page 297
Pwllheli Registration District 1847 Qtr Apr Vol 27 Page 370 (I would guess that Llanystumdwy comes under Pwllheli)
Bangor Registration District 1847 Qtr Jul Vol 27 Page 274

Hugh Hughes Hughes (yes that really is the registered name) Pwllheli Registration District 1847 Qtr Apr Vol 27 Page 360

Hugh Richard Hughes Bangor Registration District 1847 Qtr Apr Vol 27 Page 289. There is a baptism for this one on 9 May 1847, so that eliminates him.

You can buy birth certificates from the General Register Office (GRO) for £9.25 each. However, you don't need to "permenantly" buy every one to find the correct one. If you order on line from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
you will find a box that allows you to enter his father's name, and so even if you order all those listed above, you will only get the one that has the identified father's name on it. For any that don't you will get an instant full refund.

If you put in John Thomas Hughes that will definately narrow the field down. However, if the answer came back that none had that father listed, then you should consider going through the same exerise but omitting his middle name, as these were often not used consistantly.

A birth certificate will tell you where he was born, his father's name and occupation and his mother's name and maiden name.

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

shirlpossum9 — 2013-03-01 15:04:36Z

Hi, yes you are correct, their son Thomas Purslow was my Great Grandfather. He married Janet Ellin Williams in 1907.

Thanks,
Kind Regards,
Shirl Miller

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

dipsydiver2105 — 2013-03-01 13:55:44Z

This isn't checked but might be what you're looking for. 1842 James Dabbs (Shropshire) marries Eleanor PURSLOW. In 1851 they have a son, Theophilus who later marries Ann Beaman. Their son Thomas P was born in 1885 in Horsehay, Shropshire. If this info the right, let me know as we are probably very, very distantly related.

Mary Owens (B circa 1860, Llanramon)

Huwch — 2013-02-27 07:19:17Z

The above lady married a Robert Jones ( b Bryncroes , 1853) at Fourcrosses in 1892. She went on to live in Llandegwning, having at least one daughter , Elizabeth Jane Jones ( b 1894) .
Mary Owens might have been associated with a farm called Bryngwdyn Uchaf in Llanarmon, but I cannot find the slightest trace of her on any census or record prior to her marriage, and neither can I find her on the 1901 census. Does anyone have any idea where she was 1860 - 1892 , please ?

Hugh Hughes b 1847 Caernarvonshire, father John Thomas Hughes, help!?

Smith_Teresa — 2013-02-26 13:51:22Z

Hi,
Hugh Hughes was born on the 21st May 1847 in Caernarvon, Wales.
I know Hugh 'jumped ship' approx. 1869-1870 in Wallaroo, South Australia, and married Mary Jane Crouch in 18 May 1872 and lived and died in Wallaroo. On his Marriage certificate he lists his father as John Thomas Hughes but I have been unable to find a man of this name with a child named Hugh in the Census records, apart from those families who clearly have a Hugh still in the country after the time I know Hugh was in Australia.
I have found a family of John Hughes(42, shoemaker, born Llanystumdwy, Caernarvonshire, Wales), wife Ann(36, born Llanaelhaiarn, Caernarvonshire, Wales as were all children below) in the 1851 census with children Ellen(11), Jane(8), John(6), Hugh (4), and Laura(2), and again in Census 1861 with children John(17, stone dresser), Hugh(14, stone dresser), David(9), William(6) and Robert(3).
I am not sure if this is MY Hugh and father John Thomas or not. My Hugh did go on to name some of his children "Robert John", "Margaret Ann" (perhaps giving his parents' names as middle names to his eldest 2 children), and other children were named "David" and "William" perhaps after the young brothers he left behind.....although for sure those names are very common for the time and location.
According to family heresay Hugh was the ship navigator but his "x" mark on the marriage cert. shows his illiteracy so this is unlikely. I found an informal record (newspaper article I think from memory) mentioning able-seaman Hugh Hughes (correct age and from Wales) on a ship "Compadre" from home port Liverpool that was in South Australia at that time but I have misplaced it(Yikes!). He disappeared from the crew list after that (ship was going through court cases for damaged goods brought from the UK and was in the newspapers a bit). Not sure if it is MY Hugh though. There seems to be no formal listing of him ever being on a crew. I do not know if he had siblings. I do not know his mother's first OR last name. I would love any information on this man's life prior to arrival in Australia. I guess I need to seek out his birth certificate....?
Kind regards,
Tess

Re: Decendants of Margaret Hughes and Daughter Daisy Wales

emmapeek — 2013-02-25 16:17:48Z

I am trying to find the siblings of Joan Williams born 1936 to Esmor and Maggie Williams. Do you know of Daisy's siblings and who she married?

Owen Owens 1784-1849 in Bodesi, Bethesda and Moelyci, Tregarth

ejones4765 — 2013-02-24 19:43:16Z

Has anybody any information regarding Owen Owens 1784-1849 who lived at Bodesi Farm, Bethesda and Moelyci, Tregarth please. He married Gaynor Williams, 1792-1877 from Gwern y Gof Isaf, Bethesda.

Re: message for IdrisTh re: Owens

GwynnethLewis — 2013-02-20 23:48:10Z

Have you had connact with Idris Thomas ?
I shall let him know if you haven't.

G

William Hamer

lolbriggs1 — 2013-02-18 17:24:38Z

This prolific ancestor was a pawnbroker in Carnaervon, originally from Sutton Coldfield. His brothers were rag and bone men, gun smiths and hoteliers. All trace of his descendents peters out after about 1911. Any new leads greatly appreciated

Williams_Rhosgadfan

HAYDEEBABYEE — 2013-02-17 17:12:40Z

Hello, looking for possible decendants of my grandfathers brother n sisters.
Their names
Frances 1894
Robert 1898
Margaret Eluned 1908

Re: Decendants of Margaret Hughes and Daughter Daisy Wales

alberta24 — 2013-02-12 14:49:09Z

Maggie Hughes married Esmor Williams June qtr 1934 Caernarvon
Daisy M Williams mothers name Hughes birth reg. June 1934 Caernarvon.

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

shirlpossum9 — 2013-02-05 15:48:49Z

Thanks Megan,
I will do that then.

Kind regards,
Shirl Miller

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

welshladymegan — 2013-02-05 15:40:16Z

You should buy the marriage certificate, and then that will give you the names of the 2 fathers. Use this link to buy direct from the General Register Office which is cheaper than using a third party. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Using that you should then be able to search the 1851 and 1841 Censuses and see if you can find both parents with their children.

You could also buy Hannah's birth certificate, but you will need her father's name before doing so, as there are 4 such births registered in Anglesey in 1841.

David's birth predates civil registration so you will need to look for a baptism record.

David Williams in Llanfairfechan

shirlpossum9 — 2013-02-05 14:26:30Z

Hi,
does anybody know the parents of David Williams born 1833 in Llanfairfechan, North Wales and also his wife Hannah Jones born 1841 in Gaerwen, Anglesey, Wales. They married in 1863 in Bangor, Wales. Children are Hugh, John, David, Elizabeth, Catherine, and Janet.

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

shirlpossum9 — 2013-02-02 16:09:32Z

Thank you kobie. I'm quite sure that this is the right family.
Regards, Shirl

Re: David Williams in Llanfairfechan

kobieharris1 — 2013-02-02 15:54:37Z

Possible in 1891 census

1891 Wales Census about Jannet Williams
Name: Jannet Williams
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Williams
Mother's Name: Hannah Williams
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanfair-Fechan, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanfairfechan
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfairfechan
Town: Llanfair fechan
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4667
Folio: 151
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
David Williams 58
Hannah Williams 50
John Williams 20
David Williams 16
Elizabeth Williams 13
Catherine Williams 10
Jannet Williams 5

David Williams in Llanfairfechan

shirlpossum9 — 2013-02-02 14:54:12Z

Hello,
wonder if any one can help? I have my Great Grandmother as Janet Ellin Williams born 28th May, 1885 in Llanfairfechan. Her Father's name was David and she had a sister named Catherine although I don't know if she was older or younger. Trying to find out more about her father David and also who her Mother is.
Janet Ellin Williams married in Bangor on 23rd October 1907 to Thomas Purslow Dabbs.

Clynnog, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Mostyn_Thayer — 2013-01-30 05:24:12Z

I've got numerous Owen family links that trace back to Clynnog, Caernarvonshire, Wales from 1890's and well back. But Welsh records seem scarce, pre-1841, and Welsh surnames can be SO confusing.
Descendants include William Thomas Owen (1846-1901); Evan Owen (1815-1874) and wife Ellin Thomas (1812-1882); Hugh Owen (??-??) and wife Ellin Evans (??-??) married 1813 in Clynnog; and more.
Hints or FREE search suggestions greatly appreciated.

Re: Robert Parry

steveneynon81 — 2013-01-16 15:18:41Z

Hi Debbie,
I have email'd you my address and look forward to seeing the photos and info on our ancestor,
Best Wishes,
Steve

Re: Owen from Llanrug, Caernarvon Wales [Hugh Griffith]

Steffan507 — 2013-01-16 12:12:03Z

Hi, apologies on the slow reply! It's an area I've only just started to look at myself. I had some information from my uncle on the names he'd found in our family, however he'd only gone straight back, so at the moment I'm trying to find out where he fits in on the family tree. Yes, that's the Hugh Griffith I'm referring to.

Please Help - What is this WWII Women's Uniform in photo?

k2kej — 2013-01-13 17:58:26Z

Please see photo of my great grandmother attached.
What uniform is she wearing ?
It is circa 1914-1918 in Holyhead / North Wales.

Many thanks!!
Emma

Re: Cemeteries in Llandwrog

WelshGen — 2013-01-04 22:46:16Z

My first post got lost in the Ancestry system while its server was down.
There is only one cemetary in Llandwrog and it is quite young as cemetaries go and not that large. My photo below covers most of it.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/WelshGen/Genealogy/...
The cemetary at Dinas where the Welsh Highland Railway stops is a more likely burial place for your ancestor as it is a lot older and so are the gravestones.

Re: Robert Parry

steveneynon81 — 2013-01-02 14:45:14Z

Thanks Dawn for info link on the name Martell,
thanks Debbie for email address, i will be in touch,
and also thanks to Iain, just read all the links going back seven years, sorry for arriving at the party late!
My grandfather, Aneurin (robert parry's 1818-1888 great grandson) used to intrigue me with stories that his grandfather Thomas Parry (born morfil) was one of last of the drovers! before having a late second career and marriage in the Rhondda and becoming a miner!
I don't know what happened to Thomas after 1901,
Does anyone know more on Robert Parry's parents William from llanlyfni?

Re: Robert Parry

steveneynon81 — 2013-01-02 14:45:01Z

Re: Robert Parry

steveneynon81 — 2013-01-02 14:44:30Z

Re: Owen from Llanrug, Caernarvon Wales [Hugh Griffith]

mendillon — 2013-01-01 23:11:19Z

Hello,
Just a thought regarding your Griffith ancestors. I have a great great grandmother from Llanrug called Mary Griffiths born late 1700s - her father was a Griffith Prichard. This is where the dreaded patronymics come into play. It was used in Caernarfonshire and Merioneth until the early 1800s.
So you have to check carefully as Mary was given her father's Christian name for her surname. ie Mary daughter of Griffith Prichard. Mary verch Griffith in Welsh. Her brothers too. They lived in the Bryngwyn area of Llanrug and are on the 1841 and 1851 cenuss. There isnt a Hugh though. Good luck happy new year and regards
Menai Dillon.

Re: Owen from Llanrug, Caernarvon Wales [Hugh Griffith]

pat_locknar — 2012-12-30 23:46:58Z

Hello-
My original message from 2007 has sereral surnames references throughout the thread. I am assuming you are refering to Hugh Emrys Griffith son of William and Mary Griffith was born May-30-1912 in Marian-glas, Anglesey, Wales, and died May-14-1980 in London, England. He married Margaret Belgunder von Dechend 1947.

I am still trying to find where my GRIFFITH andestors are connected with the above mentioned GRIFFITH family. Where does your line fit in?

Re: Robert Parry

DebbiePhillips48 — 2012-12-30 19:59:53Z

Hi Steven
Can you email me on decs34@sky.com and I can then send you the details and photos that I got in connection with Robert William Parry. I've asked Dawn to do the same as well. To be honest I usually use Genes Reunited and got all my research there.
Look forward to hearing from you

Debbie

Re: Robert Parry

DebbiePhillips48 — 2012-12-30 19:56:23Z

Hi Dawn
Can you email me on decs34@sky.com please, then I can send you the photos that I have. Got one of Robert William Parry's wedding, not sure if Edith is in there or not but you are more than welcome to have it. Edith would be my husband's great Aunt as Robert was Emyr's Grandad. Robert's grave is in Jabez Chapel, Pontfaen-got pics of that as well (love grave hunting-not weird honest!)
Best wishes
Debbie

Re: Owen from Llanrug, Caernarvon Wales

Steffan507 — 2012-12-30 18:08:09Z

Hi, I don't know exactly how it would tie in with your family as I haven't traced it yet but you mentioned Hugh Griffith, who I'm related to. I found out today from my granddad that they were 2nd or 3rd cousins apparently.

Re: Robert Parry

DLTom901 — 2012-12-29 14:17:24Z

Hi Steven,
I know you were replying to Debbie so I hope you don't mind me butting in here ...
The Martell surname is interesting, I would love to find out more about that line so if you have any information you can share it would be great.
I found some interesting info on the surname itself, see link:
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/martel

Would be fantastic if we were descended from any of those guys! :)

Regards
Dawn.

Re: Robert Parry

DLTom901 — 2012-12-29 14:09:55Z

Hi Debbie,
A belated reply I know, but I haven't been on ancestry for a while. It's wonderful to hear from you.
I did once use Genes reunited but found it less confusing to stick to ancestry rather than attempting connections on both:)
The pics would be great, do you have them on ancestry?
So which line does your husband come from Robert Parry? My line is:
> Robert Parry & Martha Evan
> William Parry & Mary Bowen
> Edith Parry & Theophilus Vaughan
> Jemima Vaughan & Trevor Thomas (my grand parents)

Regards
Dawn x

Re: Robert Parry

steveneynon81 — 2012-12-25 21:54:18Z

Hi Debbie,
I've just read your message.
Robert Parry was my great,great,great grandfather
His son was Thomas,His son was Robert, His son was Aneurin and he was my grandfather.
My name is STEVEN PARRY EYNON.
and eighteen months ago we stumbled upon Robert's grave like yourself while trying to find his house Trenewydd MORFIL nr Maenchlochog.
His journey to West Wales must of been interesting perhaps by sea. His wife, Martha's grandparents name 'Martell' is rare possibly Spanish plus I made a trip in 2011 Llanllyfni
but wasn't sure where Robert PARRY's home was any ideas?

Re: Cemeteries in Llandwrog

milford_lass — 2012-12-02 11:51:15Z

http://www.churchplansonline.org/retrieve_results.asp?search...

Re: Cemeteries in Llandwrog

milford_lass — 2012-12-02 11:49:19Z

there are quite a few, different denominaions

mostly methodists

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llandwrog/index.html

shirl

Re: Owen OWENS Bn C1796 Caernarvonshire

icaruss1 — 2012-11-29 23:00:35Z

Andreapaul20.

Sorry for the (Long) delay in replying, I did not get a notification email when your post was added to this thread.

I am descended from Elizabeth DUFFY, eldest child of James & Jane DUFFY.

She was my Mothers 2x Maternal Grandmother.

If you let me know how far back you have gone with your research, I may be able to help you.

Re: Roberts family in pwllheli

saculrob — 2012-11-27 23:25:22Z

Hi my nan was also called Elizabeth but known as Betty. My grandad died when I was a baby I never knew his name. Her son is called Alec Edward Roberts and a daughter called margret Roberts oh and Judith and merlin I think. Can anybody shed some light?

Re: Decendants of Margaret Hughes and Daughter Daisy Wales

Hopeful_Helper — 2012-11-26 14:20:24Z

Without Margaret's married names and Daisy's last name it's going to be awfully hard for anyone to help you.

HH

Decendants of Margaret Hughes and Daughter Daisy Wales

sthomas643 — 2012-11-25 23:53:16Z

Looking for decendants of a Margaret nee Hughes born in Penygroes North Wales around 1912-1915. Her 1st husband was called Esmor ? and they had a daughter called Daisy. Margaret lived somewhere in Bedfordshire England but Daisy married someone from the royal airforce and emigrated to somewhere in Canada. Have lots of information about this welsh family tree.

Baptism in Pwllheli 1804

LMWillow — 2012-11-23 13:59:49Z

Hello,
I would be very grateful if someone could do a search for me please. For Hugh Jones or Hugh Jones Griffiths, Son of John and Jane Griffiths, in Pwllheli c1804 (1800 to 1810.)
Many Thanks
Lynn

Re: Evans family from Brynrefail.

Huwch — 2012-11-19 07:19:23Z

I can see from censuses that your family lived at 'Llain Hir'.
Remarkably, at one time in the 19th century, the neighbours in the next three houses were all distant relatives of mine !(I know that doesn't help you all that much !. The area has a monthly, welsh-language newspaper called 'Eco'r Wyddfa'which contains local news and articles for Brynrefail, Llanberis, Deiniolen and Llanrug. You'd be more likely to contact any living relatives like that.If you tell me what you want to say, I'll translate it into Welsh,but a contact of some sort would be needed. I'll try and get the details for you. There's reference to a 'Pitts' in Llanrug. Do you know details of your ancestry ? - its probably possible to work out a generation or two quite quickly.

Re: Evans family from Brynrefail.

Stephenson737 — 2012-11-18 23:37:11Z

Thank you so much for responding!! I am hoping to connect with any relatives who are still living or anyone who may remember my family. I know this is a long shot, as my Nain and her family left for America in 1924. My Nain was born in 1917. Her sister, Elizabeth, was born in 1907. When I was in Wales in 1977, I was incredibly lucky enough to meet a cousin. All I remember was his first name was Will and he was well into his late 80s at that time. I also recall meeting relatives with the last name of Pitts, but I can not recall what village they live in. There are also siblings of my Nain's named John and Mair.
I thank you I advance for your considerations.
Regards,
Katherine

Re: Evans family from Brynrefail.

Huwch — 2012-11-18 13:23:58Z

Are you looking for ancestors, relatives , etc ? . I've got the MIs for Llanddeiniolen, and my grandmother came from Brynrefail. I wonder if you've got further information (DOBs, homes )

Re: William(s) marriage in Bangor

london49 — 2012-11-12 21:36:30Z

Thanks for this.

I knew that the family had moved to Liverpool.

Struggling to go backwards though!