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Re: Can Anybody Help Me Please?

SCarroll7027 — 2013-05-21 22:13:02Z

Do you have the names of their parents?
Sara C.

Can Anybody Help Me Please?

Msdoodles — 2013-05-20 23:01:50Z

Im looking for info on my family..
DANIEL DONAGHEY D.O.B. 1812 LONGFORD?
JAMES DONAGHEY D.O.B. 1831 LONGFORD?
JOSEPH DONAGHEY D.O.B. 1869 LONGFORD?

THEY ENDED UP IN DUNDEE SCOTLAND!!!

KIND REGARDS
PEGGY DONACHIE

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-19 11:05:30Z

Christopher,
Again my sincere thanks for your assistance with our mutual St. John family information. Looking at your message dated 7th inst, I note you say Catherine St. John born 28.12.36 Married William McGibney. I am wondering if there were 2 No. Catherine St. Johns circa the same period in the same parish of Templemichael. My Great Great Grandmother Catherine Christie Married John St. John born April 1830 to Parents George St. John & Margaret Armstrong. Catherine Christie & John St. John married on August 13th 1858 at St. Paul's C. of Irl. Clonguish. Civil & Church Parish of Newtownforbes. Co. Longford. Catherine was widowed in 1908 at the age of 72
and continued to live at House 5, now House 2, Cartron Big, Corboy. She died in the Jan - Mar Period of 1913 aged 77 Years. She is buried in St. Catherine's C. of Irl. Churchayard, Killoe, Longford. Her Daughter Mary Jane Gill was also widowed by the time of the 1911 Census and returned to live with her mother in Cartron Big. It was still the physically the same house but the number changed due to other houses falling into disrepair or the rooves having fallen in. My mother Lucy recalled visiting her Great Grandmother Catherine there along with her mother Emily. She said from memory she thought it was 2 stroied with thatched roof. I am told by a mutual Cousin namely: Jack Sheehan of Kilmeaden, Co. Waterford, that he visited Templemichael Parish approx: 2 years ago and runied walls of it still stand. Is there the possibility that Catherine & John St. John's Daughter Catherine born Feb 11th 1870 may have married William McGibney. Roy

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-12 17:03:40Z

Christopher,
Herewith info. on my St. John Lineage.
ROY JOSEPH MAXWELL - Born: 14.08.1949 - at: Park House, Headfort Estate, Kells, Co. Meath. Ireland.

PARENTS
ELIZABETH ( LUCY ) GROGAN - Born: 25.08.1918 - Tirmoghan, Kilcock, Co. Kildare. - Died: 27.10.1992 - Tirmoghan, Aged: 74 Yrs. &

BARTHOLOMEW ( BARTLE ) MAXWELL - Born: 08.06.1917 - Annagh, Oldcastle, Co. Meath. - Died: 11.05.1990 - Aged: 73 Yrs. -
Marriage: 22.08.1945

GRANDPARENTS:
EMILY JANE NEEDHAM - Born:22.12.1892 at:
Knockanally, Kilcock, Co. Kildare. - Died: 04.07.1954 - aged 62 Yrs. at: Tirmoghan, Kilcock, &

CHRISTOPHER GROGAN - Born: 12.06.1876 at: Tirmoghan, Kilcock. Co. Kildare. - Died: 19.03.1919 - Aged: 43 Yrs. at: Tirmoghan, - Marriage: Circa 1916 at: Jordanstown Church, Enfield. Co. Meath.

GREAT GRANDPARENTS
MARGARET ST. JOHN - Born: 10.03.1866 at: Cartron Big, Corboy, Parish of Templemichael, Longford Urban. - Died: 1922 (2nd Qtr. )- aged: 56 Yrs. at: Knockanally Estate, Kilcock, Co. Kildare. &

ROBERT HENRY NEEDHAM - Born: 03.03.1867 at: Templemichael Parish, Longford Urban. - Died: 18.05.1940 - at: His Daughters Residence, Keepers Lodge, Headfort Estate, Kells, Co. Meath. - aged: 73 Yrs.
Marriage: 1890 (3rd Qtr.) at: St.John's C. of I. Church, Templemichael.

GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
JOHN ST. JOHN - Born: 1830 (April) in: Templemichael Parish, Longford Urban. - Died: 1908, 3rd Qtr.at: 5 Cartron Big, Corboy, Parish of Templemichael. Longford. &

CATHERINE CHRISTIE - Born: 28.12.1836 in: Clonguish Civil Parish. Co. Longford. - Marriage: 13.08.1858 - at: St. Pauls C. of I. Clonguish, Newtownforbes, Co. Longford. Marriage Cert. States her Birth year as 1839 - then aged 19 Yrs. This contradicts the age quoted in both Census 1901, 1911.

GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
George St. John - Born: Birth & Death details - Unknown to me. I gather he may have been Born in: Co. Tipperary. Ireland. - Married:

MARGARET ARMSTRONG - on: 29.09.1802 at: Templemichael
C. of I. Parish Church. Longford Town.
Birth * Death detals - Unknown to me.
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I herewith set out the Names of the Children Born to my GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
JOHN ST. JOHN & CATHERINE CHRISTIE - ST. JOHN of: Cartron Big, Corboy.

GEORGE ST. JOHN - Born: 1859 - Death - Unknown - Place: Unknown.

MARY JANE ST. JOHN - GILL - Born: 1864 - Death: Unknown - Place: Cartron Big, Corboy, Longford.

ELIZA ST. JOHN - Born: 1864 - Death: Unknown - Place : Unknown.

MARGARET ST. JOHN - NEEDHAM - " My Great Grandmother " - Born: 10.03.1866 - Died: 1922 - 2nd Qtr. - Aged: 56 Yrs.

CATHERINE ST. JOHN - Born: 1870 - Died: Unknown - Place: Unknown.

ANNE ST. JOHN - IRELAND - Born: 15.07.1872 - Died: 03.04.1969 - at: Co. Tipperary. - Aged: 97 Yrs.

JOHN ST. JOHN - Born: 1874 - Died: Unknown - Place: Assume : Cartron Big, Corboy.

N.R. ST. JOHN - Born: 1876 - Died: 1876 - N.R. Means Not Registered - Assume: Still Birth.

WILLIAM ST. JOHN - Born: 1878 - Died: Unknown - Place: Unknown.
MARIAGES & OTHER IN RELATION TO THE ABOVE NAMED
MARY JANE ST. JOHN - Born: 1864 - Married -
RICHARD GILL - Born: 1859 at: Ballymaheegan, Longford Rural, Marriage: 1882 at: St. Catherine's Killoe C. of I. - Richard Gill - Died between the taking of the 1901 & 1911 Census of Ireland. - MARY JANE - is shown in Records as a Widow. * Perhaps she re-married.

Children
JANE ANNE GILL - Born: 1885 - Died: Unknown - Place: Unknown. Last mention 1901 Census of Ireland at: House 2, Ballymaheegan, Longford Rural- aged: 16 Yrs.

JOHN GILL - Born: 1890 - Last mention: 1901 Census - aged 11 Yrs.

RICHARD ( DICK ) GILL - Born: 1891 - Last mention: 1901 Census - aged: 10 Yrs.

JOSEPH GILL - Born: 1891 - Last mention: 1901 Census - aged: 10 Yrs. * I think he lived at Howth, Co. Dublin.

WALTER W. GILL - Born: 1896 - Last mention: 1911 Census - aged: 15 Yrs.

HORACE GILL - Born: 1898 - Died - Unknown - Place: Unknown - Last mention: 1901 Census - aged: 3 Yrs.

LEWIS GILL - Born: 1898 - Died: - Unknown - Place: Unknown - Last mention - 1901 Census - aged: 3 Yrs. * Note: They were obviously Twin Brothers and there is no mention of them in the 1911 Census, perhaps at Boarding School or may have Died.

EMILY GILL - Born: 1900 - - aged 6 months in the 1901 Census. - Last mention: 1911 Census - aged: 11 Yrs.

GEORGE GILL - Born: 1902 - Died: Unknown - Place: Unknown. - Last mention: - 1911 Census - aged 9 Yrs. at: Cartron Big, Corboy, Longford.
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MARGARET ST. JOHN - NEEDHAM & ROBERT NEEDHAM - FAMILY

Children - All Born at Knockanally, Kilcock, Co. Kildare.
EMILY JANE NEEDHAM - Born: 22.12.1892 - Died: 04.07.1954 - aged: 62 Yrs. ( My GRNADMOTHER - DETAILS ALREADY QUOTED. )

JOHN HENRY NEEDHAM - Born: 1894 - Died: 1916 (2nd Qtr. ) -aged: 22 Yrs. - 1911 Census - aged: 17 Yrs. - Apprentice Draper at: Ballymahon,Co. Longford. - Military Enlistment: 16.06.1915 - Corps - 4th Btn. Reg. No. 4110 - Rank: Pte.Para 392 XV1. - Military Discharge: April 29th 1916 - Due to Terminal Illness i.e. Cancer. Died 2nd Qtr. of 1916 at His Parents home " Known locally as Needham's Lodge" on the Knockanally Estate, Kilcock, Co. Kildare. Ireland. - Posthumous Military Award: Silver Medal & Certificate: No. 126,371 - September 16th 1917. Buried at: St. Patrick's C. of I. Kilcock, Co. Kildare. - Unmarried No Children.

ROBERT NEEDHAM - Born: 1896 - Died: 22.04.1972 - aged: 76 Yrs. at: Thurston Cottage, Thurston, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England. U.K. - Buried at: St. Peter Churchyard, Thurston, Suffolk. - Burial Plot 0971. ROBERT - Married

CHRISTINA HALLIGAN - Born: 1917 at: Knockanally Estate, Kilcock, Co. Kildare. - Died: 18.11.1984 - aged: 67 Yrs. at: Cloncurry, Enfiled, Co. Meath. ie. the home of her Halligan Brothers - in the R.C. Parish of Kilcock & Newtown - Diocese of Kildare & Leighlin. buried in the local cemetery in her Family Burial plot. - No Children.

JOSEPH NEEDHAM - Born: 1898 - Died: 1907 - aged 9 Yrs. from Blood Poisioning - Buried at: St. Patrick's C. of I. Churchyard, Kilcock, Co. Kildare.

HENRY JOHN NEEDHAM - Born: 22.02.1900 - Died: 29.02.1964 -aged: 64 Yrs. at: Latimer Cottage, Latimer, Chesham, Buckinghamshire. U.K. - Buried at: Latimer R.C. Parish Churchyard, Chesham. U.K. He Married:

MARGARET MARY FINLAY - Born: 16.02.1909 at: Ulicksmountain, Woodford, Co. Galway. - Died: 12.12.1992 - Aged: 83 Yrs. - at: Paignton, Devon. TQ3. U.K. - Buried with her Husband at: Latimer Parish Churchyard, Buckinghamshire. U.K.

DOROTHY ALEXANDRA ( DORA) NEEDHAM - Born: 26.07.1902 - Died: 05.10.1982 - aged 80 Yrs. - at: Keepers Lodge, Headfort Estate, Kells, Co. Meath. - She Married: in Sring 1935 at: St. Peter's C. of I. Church, Donadea, Kilcock, Co. Kildare.
to:

WILLIAM FREDERICK IRELAND - Born: 05.07.1901 - at: Tullowbeg, County Carlow. Died: 27.04.1975 - aged: 74 Yrs. at: Keepers Lodge, Headfort Estate, Kells, Co. Meath. * They had 2 Children - Sons.
* She ( DOROTHY ) Married: Her 1st Cousin - Son of:
ANNE ST. JOHN - IRELAND

WILLIAM NEEDHAM - Born: 1905 - Died: 02.04.1951 - aged: 45 Yrs. at his Sister - DORA NEEDHAM - IRELAND'S - Residence: - Heart Attack whilst visiting. - He Married:

MARY ( MAURA ) NOLAN - Born: - Circa 1905 at: Co. Carlow. - Died: Circa 1960 - 1965. - They had 2 Children. WILLIAM & MARY NOLAN - NEEDHAM - Were living Seperate & Apart as was the legal Jargon of the day.
* I think MARY ( MAURA ) Re-Married some years into widowhood: to a Man named: Kavanagh.

GEORGE JOSEPH NEEDHAM - Born: 1909 - Died: 18.10.1938 - aged: 28 Yrs. at His Sister (DORA NEEDHAM - IRELAND'S - Residence. ) Keepers Lodge, Headfort Estate, Kells. Co. Meath.
Cause: Heart Attack. - Whilst on Holiday. - Unmarried & No Children

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CHILDREN OF THE MARRIED KILDARE BORN NEEDHAMS

HENRY JOHN NEEDHAM & MARGARET FINLAY - NEEDHAM

HILARY RONALD NEEDHAM - Born: 25.12.1943 - at: 4 Church Road, Wheately, Oxford. England. U.K. - Unmarried & No. Children. * Family Tree at: My Heritage.com

MARGARET NEEDHAM - Born: 29.07.1945 - at: 4 Church Road, Wheately, Oxford, England. U.K. - Married: Ontario, Canada.

DAVID FREDERICK GEORGE GRODON CUNNINGHAM - Born: 1946 - Died: 17.01.1996 - aged: 50 Yrs. They had issue of
3 Children

ALASTAIR CHRISTOPHER CUNNINGHAM - Born: 09.09.1967 - Canada.

HEATHER STACEY CUNNINGHAM - Born: 03.11.1973 - Canada.

CHRISTOPHER GORDON CUNNINGHAM - Born: 19.03.1980 - Canada.
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DOROTHY ALEXANDRA NEEDHAM - IRELAND & WILLIAM FREDERICK IRELAND - CHILDREN

ROBERT FREDERICK WILLIAM IRELAND - Born: 23.10 1936 at: Rotunda Maternity Hospital, City of Dublin. - Married:

LOUISE EVELYN HUGHES - Born: 18.10.1937 at: Rathmoylon, Enfield, Co. Meath. - Marriage: 29.03.1958 - at: Christchurch, Brandesbury, London. - They reside now at: Kells, Co. Meath. - They had 4 Children.

GEORGE GORDON IRELAND - Born: November 1939 - Died: 17.07.1983 - aged: 44 Yrs. at His home: Rosmeen, Kells, Co. Meath. He Married :

ALICE VALENTINE COOKE - Born: 1942 at: Bonlea, The Commons, Co. Tipperary. - Died: 05.07.1996 - aged: 55 Yrs. at: The Loudes Hospital, Drogheda, Co. Louth. - They resided at: Rosmeen, Kells, Co. Meath. Until their respective Deaths.
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WILLIAM NEEDHAM & MARY NOLAN - NEEDHAM
Children 2 No.

MAURA NEEDHAM - Born: Circa 1930 - 1940 - Resided at: Station Road, Bagenalstown, Co. Carlow. - Air Hostess in the late 1950's - No further details.

GEORGE NEEDHAM - Born: Circa 1930 - 1940 - Resided at: Station Road, Bagenalstown, Co. Carlow. He was a member of the Irish Army - Listed under Carlovians in the Irish Defence Forces - Reg. No. 811278 - No further details.
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CHILDREN OF: ANNE ST. JOHN - IRELAND & WILLIAM IRELAND
of: - Glenary Estate, Co. Waterford - Oak Park Estate, Carlow & Co. Tipperary.

ANNE ST. JOHN - Born: 15.07.187 Died: 03.04.1969 - Aged: 97 Yrs. &

WILLIAM IRELAND - Born: 1874 in: Wales - U.K. _ Died: 25.02.1915 - aged: 44 Yrs. - Marriage: 24.06.1896 at: St. Patricks' C. of I. Kilcock, Co. Kildare. - She aged: 23 Yrs. & He aged: 22 Yrs.
His earlier Years : Kennell Boy, at: Carnick, Near: Fort William, Co. of Invernessshire. - 1911 - Gamekeeper at: Glenary Estate, Waterford. - 1915 - Manager - Gamekeeper - at: Oak Park, Estate, Co. Carlow. until his Death.
Their Children:

JOHN THOMAS IRELAND - Born: 1897 at: House 5, Cartron Big, Corboy, Longford. - Died: 10.02.1948 - at: James Connolly Memorial Hopsital, Blanchardstown, Co. Dublin. - Married:

Sarah Addie - Born: 1898 - Died: 26.11.1929 - aged: 31 Yrs. - of: Tipperay / Limerick area.

EMILY JOHAN IRELAND - Born: 24.04.1899 - at: Guisachan, Kiltackity, Co. of Invernessshire, Scotland. - Died: 01.10.1986 - aged: 87 Yrs. - Baptised into: Church of Scotland - Became a member of: C. of I. & later A member of: the R.C. Church - She Married _

GEORGE CORBETT - Born: 1897 - at: Kilshane, Kilfeakle, Co. Tipperary. Died: 24.10.1971 - aged: 74 Yrs. Both: Buried at: Kilshane R.C. Cemetery,Kilshane, Co. Tipperary. - No Issue.

WILLIAM FREDERICK IRELAND - Born: 05.07.1901 - at: Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow. - Died: 27.04.1975 - aged: 74 Yrs.
Inspector of Game for the Irish Government until 1935 - 1935 until 1975 Head Gamekeeper at: Marquis of Headfort Estate, Kells, Co. Meath. until shortly prior to his death: at: Keepers Lodge, on the Headfort Estate. He Married:

DOROTHY ALEAXANDRA ( DORA) NEEDHAM ( His 1st Cousin .)
Her details quoted earlier under NEEDHAM Family. - They had issue of:2 Children.

JESSICA ( JESSIE ) IRELAND - Born: 1903 at: Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow. - Died: 2001 - aged: 98 Yrs. at: Kilmeaden, Co. Waterford. - She was Postmistress of Kilmeaden P.O. for many years. - She Married

MICHAEL SHEEHAN - Born: Date unknown to me - Died - Circa 1949 - 1955 at: Kilmeaden. - 1 Child.

GEORGE ROBERT IRELAND - Born: 1907 at: Glenary Estate, St. Mary's, Waterford. - Died: 24.12.1944 - aged: 37 Yrs. - He Married -

JENNIFFER ( JENNIE ) FOSTER - Born: Date & Year unknown to me. - at: Adare, Co. Limerick. - Died: Prior 1948 at: Newtownbarry, Co. Wexford. -
Issue: 1 Child.

STANLEY JAMES IRELAND - Born: 1909 at: Glenary, St. Mary's, Waterford. - Died: 23.01.1975 at: St. Vincent's Hospital, Tipperary Town. - Buried at: Clonmel Cemetery, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary. - He Married

Bridie /Surname - Unknown to me. - Born: Date - Unknown - Died: 09.05.1956 - Buied at: Clonmel Cemetery, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary. - Issue of 3 Children.
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CHILDREN OF:
JOHN THOMAS IRELAND & SARAH ADDIE - IRELAND

WILLIAM ( BILLIE ) IRELAND - Born: 1936 - at: Costelloe, Connemara, Co. Galway. Died: in the 1990's in Scotland.

JOHN IRELAND - Born: 1938 at: Costelllo, Connemara, Co. Galway. - Living in Canada. - No other details.

EMILY JOHAN IRELAND - CORBETT & GEORGE CORBETT
No Issue.

CHILDREN of:
WILLIAM FREDERICK IRELAND & DOROTHY ALEXANDRA NEEDHAM - IRELAND. " quoted under " Dorothy Alexandra Needham.

CHILDREN OF:
JESSICA IRELAND - SHEEHAN & MICHAEL SHEEHAN

JOHN ( JACK ) SHEEHAN - Born: 1930 - at: Kilmeaden, Co. Waterford. Still resides in Kilmeaden and for many years was head of the Post Masters Union of Ireland. - He Married
MYRTLE - MAIDEN NAME unknown to me. - She died in 1999
They had 3 Children.

CHILDREN OF:
GEORGE ROBERT IRELAND & JENNIFFER FOSTER - IRELAND

DAVID FOSTER - IRELAND - Born: 1932 at: The Gardens, Newtownbarry, " Now Known as - Bunclody " Co. Wexford. -
No further details.

CHILDREN OF:
STANLEY JAMES IRELAND & BRIDIE " Maiden Surname Unknown " - Ireland

MARY IRELAND - Born: 1945 - In Co. Tipperary. - Married

DAVID MAHER - Born: Circa 1940's - Died: Date unknown to me. - Unaware of any Children.

GEORGE IRELAND - Born: Circa 1940 at: Co. Tipperary. - 1950 - Married

KATHLEEN - Surname unknown to me. - Children: Aware of 2 Births: 1 child - Male has since died as a young man in an accident.

THELMA IRELAND - Born: 17.05.1949 - at: Co. Tipperary.
She Married

KEVIN JOHN KEEGAN - Born: 31.10.1949
They have Children - Details unknown to me.
They are Divorced. Kevin John Keegan has re-married. to a Lady named : Coyle

Re: Gill Family

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-11 12:10:39Z

A.W. I have relatives namely: Gill Family of, Ballyhaheegan,
Longford Rural, Longford. Ireland. Richard Gill born 1859 at Ballymaheegan,his Father was a Joseph Gill. Richard married Mary Jane St. John of : Cartron Big, Corboy, Civil and Religous Parish of Templemichael, Longford Town.Her Parents were: John St. John & Catherine Christie - St. John: Richard & Mary Jane Gill had issue of 2 Daughters, namely: Jane Anne,born: 1885,Emily,born:
1900 - 7 Sons Namely: John,born:1890, Richard,born: 1891 Joseph,born: 1893 Walter,born: 1896 George,born: 1902 Twins: Horace & Lewis born: 1898 and they appear to have died prior to the taking of the 1901 Census of Ireland. I am Descended from the St. John Family line via: John & Catherine St. John. - Regards. Roy Joseph Maxwell

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-09 07:27:00Z

Christopher, Many thanks indeed for your kindness in assisting with such an amount of information. I think perhaps there is a mix up in some of it or I am having difficulty sorting it. I will email again later with some more details. Regards. Roy J.

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

christopher_stjohn91 — 2013-05-08 08:45:43Z

Roy
George St John and Margaret Armstrong had Four Children:
John St John (Christened 25.4.30) Married Catherine Christy in the 1901 Census he was living at 5 Carton Big, Corboy, Longford. I have found two children for them Catherine St John born 11.2.1870 and William St John .
Catherine St John born 28.12.36 Died 1913 Longford Aged 77 She married William McGibney and lived at 2 Carton Big. According to 1911 census she is the head of the house she must have divorced as she buried under the name St John. She had a daughter Mary jane, who must have married a Gill. Catherine has children as follows Eliza 2.10.1870, James McGibney7.6.72,William 28.3.76
George Christened was Christened in 8.5.43 he married Martha St John Craig and is recorded in 1901 census as residing 3 Gragh, Moydow. He had Children Margaret 25.3.1878 (your ancestor),Phoebe,Charlotte,George S ,Agness Ann and William E.

Thomas St John
Born 27.7.1847 Longford – Died 2 July 1919
Wife: Caroline Johnson born 17.11.1851 died 2.7.1918(Believed misprint) 22.1.1918, Caroline Johnson was the daughter of James Johnson of Colhook Common, Petwort, England. Her Picture is attached
Married: 2/7/78 in Eltham Parish Church, Kent. Eltham Parish Church. Saint John the Baptist. Eltham High Street, Eltham, LONDON SE9 1DH T: 020 8859 1242

Children (age at 1901 census)
Lillie St John (18) Dob 28.9.1880 Born England, Tailoress. Believed she may have become Lillie Taylor according to scribbled family tree.
Margaret St John Picture attached(17) Dob 30.1.1882 Born England, Tailoress. Margaret married John Johnston. His sister Mary Johnston married George the Grocer. Margaret and John had two boys Jack and Cecil. Jack had no issue. Cecil married Nell. They had two boys Boys Brian and Desmond.
George St John (16) Dob 11.10.1883 Born Longford, Grocers assistant. He Married Mary Corry Johnson (her brother John Johnson married Margaret Johnson picture attached). They has two children George James St John (George the Sailor) and Mabel St John. Mabel Married Jack Crawford. They had four children Myrtle, Roger, Evelyn and Raymond. I am descended from this George.
Thomas St John (15) Dob 23.11.1884Born Longford, Iron Works Turner. He Married Eleanor McMullen. They had a son Robert who married Anne. They had four children Roberta, Thomas, Ethel and Brian
William St John (14) Dob 9.4.1886 Born Longford he died in 1903 he had no children
Ernest St John (12) Dob 28.6.1888 Born Longford (Grocers assistant) he married Eleanor Stevenson – they had no children
Caroline [Sharlott (1911 Census)] St John (10 years) Dob. 8/2/1890 according to George the Sailor 7/2/1890 according to Born Longford (machinist). She appears to have had one Daughter Caroline Quigley. Caroline St John Died in 1924. This is according to a scribbled family tree. In accordance with the printed family tree Caroline St John married Samuel Sailes they had a daughter Margaret who married someone called Lowe. Their children are Bridget, Brendan, Geraldine, Patricia, Michael, Peter, Caroline, Christine and Stephen.
I am in contact with Patricia.
Photos: John Johnson & Margaret St John(Thomas's Daughter)
George St John Junior (Thomas's son) & Mary Johnson,
Finally Caroline Johnson: Thomas's wife

St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-07 13:25:14Z

I am researching the Family of My Great Grandmother namely:
Margaret Needham ( Born ) St. John. Born March 10th 1866 at: Cartron Big, Corboy, Co. Longford. Her Parents were:
John St. John of Carton Big, & Catherine St. John ( Born ) Christie.
Any information relating to her , her parents, grandparents, siblings etc, will be much appreciated. Regards.
Roy Joseph Maxwell

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-06 08:40:16Z

Nicholas , would appreciate the pictures of the other Cousin's
with names please. Regards. Roy J.

Re: Feeney DNA Project

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-05-06 08:35:30Z

A Family named Feeney lived in Newtown, Enfield. Co. Meath. Ireland. This address in the R.C. Parish of Kilcock & Newtown. in the R.C. Diocese of Kildare & Leighlin. Try here for information. R.J. Maxwell

Feeney DNA Project

MichaelJFeeney — 2013-05-05 20:24:21Z

There is a Feeney DNA Project at familytreedna.com that has 43 members some are by marriage.There are new tests for both female and males to search both paternal and maternal lines.Im am sure there are many Feeney researchers who have brickwalls to break.Check it out the price has come down a lot.I am searching for DNA matches to find out what county my great great grandfather Michael Feeney was born abt 1814.Who immigrated to Brooklyn, N.Y. in 1834 and died in 1888.My great grandfather Michael J Feeney born abt 1848 in Brooklyn, N.Y. had a brother Charles born abt 1844 in Brooklyn, N.Y. who's last known address was living in Boston, Massachusetts and unknown James Feeney who was my grandfather Michael J Feeney born 7 April 1891 in Brooklyn, N.Y. Thank you Michael J Feeney

Granard Workhouse

bubble366593 — 2013-05-03 21:30:56Z

My grandfather was born in the Granard workhouse in 1905 and there is no listing of parents names on his birth record. Were illegitimate children given their names by the workhouse staff or did the mother get to name them and do they carry the last name of one of their parents? I'm also very interested in seeing if a list of residents there during that time is available anywhere.

Thanks!

John Hume Ramsay, County Longford

stephhume46 — 2013-05-02 11:29:51Z

Am searching for information about the above who owned 500 acres in County Longford at the time of his death in 1862 and his wife Margaret who lived at Moneygalan.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-05-01 18:37:12Z

It will be posted on the website this week. Look for the book to be available May 5. It is a text book size book 11 x 9
It has color Coat of Arms symbols throughout the interior for the families that the Drake's married into.
terry-drake@hotmail.com

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-05-01 16:21:37Z

Hi Terry,

Is your Drake book available yet? I don't see it on your site or on Amazon.

Charles

Re: moxham

gregdavy20011 — 2013-05-01 00:54:40Z

Hi Neil,
Thanks,for your reply.I think that Gustavus was the brother of our Nicolls guy who went to Nz,so I will forward it to a guy in London who has a good collection on the Nicholls family.Are you Ken's son?You can email me at gregdavy2001@yahoo.com.
Greg...

Re: moxham

neilmoxham — 2013-05-01 00:28:04Z

Hi Greg,

I've been doing a bit of digging on the Moxham history and I came across something that might be of interest to you. My g-grandfather John Moxham married Mary Anne Small in Almorita church, Co. Westmeath, on 26 February 1884. One of the witnesses was Gustavus Nicolls. As you mention, John's sister Teresa married a Dr. Nicholls, so I wondered if there might be a connection to this chap with the intriguing name. In the same church, Anne Nichols, daughter of carpenter John Nichols, married William Patton 10 August 1887.

Hopefully this is of some use to you,
Neil Moxham

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-04-30 20:21:55Z

Christopher,
Thank you very much for the photo & information on Thomas St. John. It is great to see what they looked like etc. He was a very handsome man. Great to know there are photo's in existence. I have some photo's of Margaret St. John Needham & Robert Needham which i will send you when i learn how to do so. Kind Regards. Roy J.

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

christopher_stjohn91 — 2013-04-30 14:11:50Z

Margarets father was John St John his father was George St John and Mother was Margaret Armstrong. Below is the details of george:

George St John
Wife: Margaret Armstrong. Her name was not listed in my family bible but is on the christening certificates of all the children. There is a high likelihood her mother was Catherine Armstrong.
Occupation of George St John: Shoemaker- this occupation was recorded from 1830 to 1847”
Address: The address of all the children’s birth certificates were listed as Aughnacolia/Aughnacliffy, Aughnacliffe/ Aughnacorry, Templemichael, Co. Longford.
Your guess is as good as mine as to the correct spelling
I believe a land sale in 1876 gave the address as:
Longford, Ardagh, Aghnacally Glebe.
This is therefore the address we will use

Children
My family bible listed the children of George as Kathleen, George,William and Thomas. Only a date of birth for Thomas was provided in the bible. This proved to be wrong as it was in fact his christening date. Interestingly his certificate of baptism is the only one to have a date of birth all the others have date of christening only. These details were obtained from rootsireland.ie.
John St John (Date of Baptism) 25.4.1830. Originally he is recorded in the family bible as William. however no Williams were recorded as being born in Templemichael. This research confirmed his name. According to Irish naming pattern the eldest son was named after his fathers Father. This means Georges father was John St John
Cathline St John (Date of baptism) 28.12.1838 (The family in later years spelt this Kathline, prioro to this research her dob was unknown)
George St John (Date of Baptism) 8.5.1843 (Baby bear) (This George is not to be confused with Thomas’s son born in 11.8.1893 in Longford) If he is the eldest son then this would mean that daddy bears fathers father was George.
Thomas St John born 27.7.1847. (date of baptism 8.8.1847).
There are 17 years between the births of the first and last Children

I have a picture of Thomas St John and his son

I believe George came from Tipperary (I have compiled dispersal data which I base this on). I have found a record of Nicholas St John who Died 16 Feb 1775. He is Church of Ireland and is burried in the family grave at Holy Trinity, Fethard, Tipperary. He left most of his estate to his sister Catherine. He also left items to his brother Thomas and sister Mary. Finally he left £100 to his brother John St John. I still haven't completed my research, but believe this was George from Longfords father. I attach a picture of Thomas St John (John st John, your ancestors brother)

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

christopher_stjohn91 — 2013-04-30 13:49:57Z

Thomas St John.
He is Margaret's fathers brother - 1e her uncle. I have pictures of two of her cousins and Aunt (Thomas's wife)

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-04-30 11:01:45Z

Christopher, Who is the person in the attached Photo.
Regards. Roy J.M.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

RoyJosephmaxwell72 — 2013-04-29 20:20:55Z

I believe we the Maxwell Family have connections to Drake Family in Meath or Westmeath. I heard mention of Fr. Drake with supposed connections. Our Family originally from Fore, Co. Westmeath & Annagh, Oldcastle, Co. Meath. Ireland.
Roy Joseph Maxwell

Re: Riley in Columbkille/Colmkill Parish

tmoffatt176 — 2013-04-19 00:37:31Z

Switching back to Shaw for a moment, the marriage of Sarah Shaw with a Moffet (she later married an Armstrong as is pointed out in this thread) is of interest. There were NO Moffets (of whatever spelling) in the Drumlish area in either the Griffiths Valuation, or earlier in the tithe applotments, and even earlier 1790 voter lists. There were Moffets in the area a bit east of Newtownforbes, and bunches of them in the Killashee area. There were also SHAW families in Ballynakill Townland and nearby in Killashee. I might suspect the Shaws of Killashee Parish could have been related. I have extensive Moffat records from all Co. Longford, but have not come across a marriage of Sarah Shaw to a Moffat, incidentally - Tom Moffatt

Re: Devine's,Byrne's of Drumlish/Longford

pacman23555 — 2013-04-18 13:53:14Z

Hi,

Hope your still on here. I've been away for a while.

I think this may be match. Where did you get the following information?

"Margaret and Patrick both emmigrated in 1896. On June 20, 1919 she states was born in Bawnboy, Co. Cavan, temperarily residing in Belturbet, Co. Cavan and on a 6 mo. visit to Ireland, she received a passport from the American Consulate in Dublin Aug 9, 1919. She also stated she had returned to Ireland in 1914 to settle an estate.

This maybe the wrong Patrick, but the only one in Ohio at 3132-W. 14th. Street, Cleveland.
in 1930 the last available released census for the USA""

i would love to see the original documents.

Thanks
Tommy

George Tucker

lucilletuck — 2013-04-14 00:02:43Z

My grandfather, George Tucker, was born Sept. 27, 1900 in Brooklyn. His parents were John Tucker and May McDermott. They lived in Brooklyn and show on the last census in 1940 living at 183 St. John's Place, Brooklyn, NY. He and May separated after that and we do not know what happened to him afterwards until his death. He was buried on July 13, 1961 at St. Charles Cemetery in Farmingdale, New York. I would like to know if he remarried and where he lived in between.

John Tucker

lucilletuck — 2013-04-13 23:56:41Z

My great grandfather, John Tucker, born John Togher in Edgeworthstown, Longford, Ireland on April 21, 1869 was married for the 2nd time on June 19, 1892 in Newark New Jersey, USA to Elizabeth Callahan. (I would like to know who he married the first time). They moved to Brooklyn, New York and had 4 children, Kathryn, Eugene, Christina, and George. They show on the 1900 US Census at 385 Graham Avenue. George Tucker (4th child) was born later that year. John Tucker disappears from records after this census. I cannot find him. Elizabeth remarries in 1908. I would like to know if he died or remarried or lived somewhere else.

Re: Broderick Longford town / Edgeworthstown

Jbro22 — 2013-03-30 21:22:05Z

Thos Broderick lived at the Clonbalt house.
James Broderick his brother lived near Madison Wisconsin
town of Sun Prairie WI.

James Broderick Married Mary Fogarty 1850 Ireland.

email mikrovolt@yahoo.com

Re: Keegan/Downey Creevagh Beg, Ballymahon, Longford

bridgetsul1993 — 2013-03-21 20:58:57Z

I do hope that you do not mind me contacting you. An Amazing thing happened to me a few days ago when I found your tree! My father was William Farady and he lived with the Keegan Family just outside the centre of Dublin. I spent many happy holidays with the family and at times he new he was related to them but no one would admit it. The Keegens came to my wedding in England when I was in my early 20s.

Do you have any documents re Farady which you would be willing to share with me or at least tell me how I can get some copies. Unfortunately due the the "troubled " times many were destroyed. I do have one photo of him standing out side the school he went.

Thank you for reading this.
B M Farady, the BM Mackevoy, now BM Sullivan

14th Light Dragoons

ellenparton66 — 2013-03-16 21:05:08Z

My 3rd gt grandfather was a sergeant with the 14th and was discharged at Longford in 1834. I'm trying to trace his family, have been looking for years - his name is William Blackall, born in Ireland but settled in the UK.

Re: Coyle Cronogue Mulligans of Granard

catcoyle1 — 2013-03-13 11:55:08Z

The Cronogue family still live in Granard. My Great Grandmother was born Catherine Cronogue, then became Coyle when she married. There is a chance Mary could have been related to Catherine. If Mary had a Son in 1954, it Coleman she was either a younger Sister of Catherine or her niece. You can contact the Granard Parish. They have the birth and death records of the family. The Cronogues and Coyles have a long history in Granard.

Re: Coyle Cronogue Mulligans of Granard

julsamc — 2013-03-13 01:53:05Z

I'm trying to locate family with the cronogue last name. My father was born in Ireland and then was adopted into the US. He was born in 1954. I know it is a long shot but I'm looking for a Mary Cronogue she was listed as his mother. Thanks for any help. He was baptized in Westmeathe Castlepollard Ireland.

Cronogue

julsamc — 2013-03-12 19:03:21Z

My father was born in Ireland aug 24, 1954. I'm looking for his mother and any relatives. Her name is Mary Cronogue at least that's what the birth certificate says. Thanks for any help.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-03-08 15:13:59Z

No. The migration to Ireland is only mentioned. His father and their Father's Father are researched and identified in the book.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-03-08 12:50:44Z

Robert Fitz Humphrey Dracc 1185-1250(Drake) had three sons:
1: William de Drake 1206-1226 moved to Ireland
2: Absalom de Dracc 1208-xxxx moved to Warwickshire
3" Ralph de Drake 1210-1249 Mount Drake, Musbury, Devon, England.
They all share a common Coat of Arms: Red Dragon with curled tail and wings for flight.
They arrive their name from their home of Drakenage. The Dragon's den. They were considered a leader or "Dracc" and the family descended from the noblity of Amiens, Valois and Laon. Their fore fathers were counts some of which who married into the royalty of the times.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-08 12:43:32Z

Do you cover this migration in the book?

Regardless, I look forward to reading it.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-03-08 12:30:30Z

I am from the family of Ashe, Devon England. One brother moved to Ireland the other moved to Devon England.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-08 11:23:10Z

Jeff check your messages.

Charles

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-08 11:22:53Z

Jeff check your messages.

Charles

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-08 11:06:29Z

Terry,

Yes, those are my wife's family.

Are you of this line as well?

Thanks in advance

Charles Coulter

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

the0tter — 2013-03-08 00:32:01Z

That’s really interesting, Terry. The Carrickduff Drakes with whom I am in contact are supposedly descended from this family:

Edward Drake of Carrickduff, Granard, Longford, Ireland
Born: 1827; Married: Rose Lynch, b. ca. 1825
seven children:
1. Marian
2. Kate
3. Margaret
4. John
5. Bernard
6. Rose
7. Ellen

So far, the only citation I have for this is a handwritten descendants list. I would love to know how this family relates to Edward and Mary, and how both of them relate to my own, aforementioned John.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake69 — 2013-03-07 23:04:04Z

Terrance Drake of Carrickduff, Granard, Longford, Ireland
Born: 1826 Married: Mary Gaffney Born: 1826
Son: Edward Drake Born: 1865
Married: Mary Lynch
six Children:
1: Annie
2: Bridget
3: Mary
4: Nor
5: Terrance
6: Elizabeth

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-07 22:11:43Z

Hi Jeff,

My wife's grandmother was Elizabeth Drake. Her father was Edward Drake who was married to Mary Lynch. Edward's father was Terrance and was married to Mary Gaffney. We have also been contact with some cousins from the area. They have invited us to visit also. Perhaps later this year.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

the0tter — 2013-03-07 13:21:29Z

Charles, who is your wife’s grandmother? My father met the Carrickduff Drakes on his trip to Ireland, and I’ve been in contact with some of them and their descendants.

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

cwc1170 — 2013-03-07 12:31:27Z

Hi Terry,

I'm looking forward to the book. By chance will it cover the Drakes that settled in Ireland? If not, can you direct me to a any resources that may cover this line? I ask as my wife's grandmother was a Drake from Carrickduff, Granard, Longford.

Thanks in advance.

Charles Coulter

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-03-06 12:40:00Z

My book concentrates on the Drakes of Ashe. However the started their long reign in Devon England as descendents from Raoul Count of Valies and Vexin. There was a family that spun off to Ireland where one of the John Drakes became Mayor of Dublin. My book will be available in late April. terrywdrake.com

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

the0tter — 2013-03-06 11:31:19Z

Sounds great, Terry. Does your book happen to incude my John or his ostensible father, George?

Thanks!

Re: John Drake, b.±1835

terry_drake1 — 2013-03-05 00:30:39Z

Just thought you might be interested in my research that traces the Drake family back to the year 700. It identifies the Drakes that moved to Ireland and those who maintained their home as the Drake's of Ashe Devonshire England. My book will be available in April 2013. website: terrywdrake.com

Ward

familysmith1 — 2013-02-27 01:21:24Z

Looking for information on Ann(e) Ward the daughter of Thomas Ward and Helen Henry. I believe Ann(e) was born in County Longford Ca 1821.

John Smith

Re: Corrigan Family

declancorrigancfs — 2013-02-26 00:40:35Z

Hi Sinead
My name is Declan Corrigan, I have attached copy of the 1901 irish census. Bernard Corrigan aged 7 in census in my grand father. I hope this is of some use to you.

Regards
Declan

Re: St. John Family - Longford. Ireland.

DaveBoylan — 2013-02-22 03:23:13Z

You're welcome Roy and many thanks for your kind words.

If ever I need help with Kildare records, I'll be sure to contact you.

Kind Regards,

Dave