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Re: Somers/Kennedy/Rutherford connections

RichardSullivan152 — 2009-11-08 15:43:20Z

I am a Somers on my mothers side and a direct descendant of the James and Mary Somers of MaGuires Bridge. I have been there and have seen the gravestone erected to Mary by her emigre sons Charles and Francis. Charles was my great great grandfather. The two sons settled in Toronto and descendants include the composer Harry Somers who died a few years ago. The family did well in Toronto and a decendant, James Somers, received the OBE for service to the Empire, having served as City Clerk of Toronto for 60 years (this in the 1930's I believe). The family was, like many Ulster protestant families, culturally as much Scots as Irish. In Canada they were members of the Orange Lodge. Subsequent generations produced few sons and the last Charles Somer (my grandfather died about 25 years agao. His only son, Paul, did last year. THe latters two sons were adopted. Pamela, I can check some family notes for more info on the brothers in Canada, but I am afraid I have no information going back further than James and Mary.
Richard

Re: Joseph Slack Snr

mervburley1 — 2009-11-07 22:44:38Z

Dear Hannah, thank you so much for your reply.
My connection with the Slack family is via my wifes mother who was the daughter of George Ashford Slack the grandson of Joseph Slack. I have some information on Joseph and his decendants but would like more. I found the book "World of Its Own" by Elizabeth Wiedeman has info on Joseph. I am very happy to share my information with you, my email address is
mervburley@hotmail.com
I have not heard of the "Records of the Slack Family of Ireland" and would appreciate any info you can provide.
Look forward to hearing from you
Kind regards
Merv

Re: Joseph Slack

mervburley1 — 2009-11-07 22:33:01Z

Annette, many thanks for the information, it will be of great help in tracing information regarding Joseph Slack. Apologies for taking so long to thank you but I have just returned from an extended holiday.
Again many thanks for your assistance.
Kind regards
Merv

Re: Joseph Slack Snr

hannahwhite_1 — 2009-11-07 13:41:40Z

Hi
Joseph Snr was my great-great-grandfather.His son was Joseph Jnr.The family all came to Inverell,NSW and pretty much settled there (I was born there and I'm 35 today).most of his sons were excellent drovers. Joseph Jnr (my great grandfather) married a Wyndham - Catherine. Her mother was Mary Ann Wyndham,daughter of George Wyndham who has a 'distinguished' line in Aus. Anyway I have all my family history and am glad to hear if you have any interest.Susan married William Uruquhart(1906), Sarah married Thomas Carroll. My dad Algie (Joseph Jnr's grandson)was a lot older than my mum and served in WW2 although he didn't have to (over 35), but volunteered and was injured twice seriously. He died when I was 7. Have you ever heard of 'Records of the Slacke Family in Ireland'? I could email it if you don't have. Would be good to hear back.
Hannah Jane Slack

Re: Thompson family Cliffany.

maryoak — 2009-11-03 22:36:41Z

this looks like their marriage.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 29 Mar 1897
Groom Name william Thompson
Bride Name maud selina Ternan
Church Tempo Presbyterian Church
Parish Enniskillen
Civil District Enniskillen
County Fermanagh

Thompson family Cliffany.

wilder5 — 2009-11-01 16:18:18Z

I am trying to trace members of the Thompson family of Cliffany.

In 1911 William and Maud Selina Thompson had six children, William John and Maggie Jane (twins) aged 13, Annie Elizabeth (11) Matthew James (9) Maud Kathleen (6) and Irvine aged 9 months (my father).

Any help much appreciated.

Re: Humphries; Irvinestown

Clef42 — 2009-10-20 19:00:24Z

Hi Suzanne,

Here is some information on Humphreys in Fermanagh. First, the 1862 Griffiths evaluation lists one Christopher in Cullaghmore and another in Drumhoney. Note that there is also a Royal in Cullaghmore, indicating close relation to my Keys ancestor. In a letter from about 1831, Royal Keys mentions uncles Christopher and William Humphreys of Crevenish.

Humpheries Christopher Derryvullan Cullaghmore
Humpheries Johnston Magheraculmoney Drumbane
Humpheries Johnston Magheraculmoney Drumreane
Humpheries Royal Derryvullan Cullaghmore
Humphrey Charles Aghalurcher Cornakessagh
Humphrey Denis Devenish Levally Lower
Humphreys Francis Kinawley Kinawley
Humphreys John Kinawley Kinawley
Humphreys John Magheraculmoney Kesh
Humphreys John, Jr. Drumkeeran Rossgole
Humphreys John, Sr. Drumkeeran Rossgole
Humphreys Patrick Derryvullan Drogan
Humphreys Patrick Derryvullan Druminshinardagh
Humphreys Robert Kinawley Kinawley
Humphreys Thomas Magheraculmoney Kesh
Humphries Anne Derryvullan Carranboy
Humphries Bernard Magheraculmoney Ardvarny West
Humphries Charles Derryvullan Drumshane (Lisnarick)
Humphries Charlotte Derryvullan Coolisk
Humphries Christopher Magheraculmoney Drumhoney
Humphries Christr. Magheraculmoney Drumbarna
Humphries Hugh Kinawley Drumany More
Humphries James Devenish Enaghan
Humphries James Magheraculmoney Rosscolban
Humphries Jas., Jr. Magheraculmoney Slievebane
Humphries Jas., Sr. Magheraculmoney Slievebane
Humphries John Drumkeeran Corlaght East
Humphries John Kinawley Drumany More
Humphries John Magheraculmoney Clareview
Humphries John Magheraculmoney Drumhoney
Humphries John Magheraculmoney Slievebane
Humphries John Magheraculmoney Slievebane (Jas.)
Humphries Johnston Magheraculmoney Rosscolban
Humphries Richard Magheraculmoney Cady
Humphries Richard Magheraculmoney Crevinish
Humphries Richard Magheraculmoney Duck Island
Humphries Richard Magheraculmoney Horse Island
Humphries Thomas Magheraculmoney Drumhoney
Humphries William Cleenish Trillick
Humphries William Derryvullan Irvinestown (Trillick Rd.)
Humphries William Drumkeeran Corlaght East
Humphries Wm., Sr. Magheraculmoney Slievebane

There is a plethora of Humphreys in the 1901 census. However, I did not note a single Christopher. There is an Edward at Slievebane (age not given).

Cheers,
Roy

Re: Humphries; Irvinestown

suzannehumphries24 — 2009-10-20 17:42:50Z

h, thanks for replying. My great grandfather was Christopher b 1884 son of edward and elizabeth. I have some information on the Tumath family but not very much on the Humphries as they all moved to canada.
hope to hear fromyou soon
Suzanne

Re: Humphries; Irvinestown

Clef42 — 2009-10-20 02:43:53Z

My ancestor Royal Keys from County Fermanagh (Coolaness, Derryvullan North) emigrated to Canada and settled in Marmora, Ontario in 1831. There was already at least one Keys family in Ontario at the time. Royal was the son of Hugh Keys and Dorothy Humphreys of Drumard, which had been in the Humphreys family for several generations. There is a great deal of information on the Humphreys family in Fermanagh.

Roy

Re: Humphries; Irvinestown

DianeGranger42 — 2009-10-19 23:28:29Z

I just read your post and you have been in touch with my daughter Cathy Grain. I have found my grandmother's birth certificate and her parents were Edward Humphries, born in Pettigo and Elizabeth Tumath. My grandmother was Elizabeth Cataherine born 1885. They came to Canada in 1901 and lived in Portage la Prairie. Grandma's mother died when she was about 2 years old. Her father remarried. They ran a boarding house in Portage and her step-mother was a seamstress. I would appreciate hearing from you as to how we are related.
Diane

Mains Family from the Townland of Corragole

bmains1952 — 2009-10-19 02:36:53Z

Please see website:
http://sites.google.com/site/mainsfamilynow/.

This site lists the first three generations of five Mains siblings (4 brothers and 1 sister) who came to Carleton County, Ontario Canada in 1830's & 1840's from the townland of Corragole, County Fermanagh, Ireland.

About half of those with the surname "Mains" in Canada today are trace their roots to this family. Montgomery, Trimble, Kettles, Hicks, Neelin, Brownlee, Tubman and Roe are other surnames common to both County Fermanagh and Carleton County.

Re: Fermangh, Enniskillen MCCAFFERTY'S

LynnFosterTurner — 2009-10-18 17:10:21Z

Hello Rick,
My great grandmother was Frances McCaffrey and she had an elder sister Jane married James Ferris in Ireland and emmigrated to Grey County Ontario. My G Grandmother was the second wife of James borther Robert.These people came fro mEnniskillen irlenad,I have unsubstantiated info that the
McCaffrey(spelling varies from document to document)women were cousin of Hargreaves who had emmigrated to Toronto.
This family was of Protestant denomination Methodist,Baptist,Latter Day Saints are showing up in our history of Ferris but we have nothing othe Mccaffery women except a couple of pics!

Re: Joseph McDermott

sammilt — 2009-10-18 03:46:17Z

Please let me know how I could get a copy of this marriage record. Joseph McDermott is my great, great, great grandfather. Thank you.

Lynne Militello
sammilt@frontiernet.net

Re: Byng/Bing Family, Fermanagh

M_Derek_Johnstone — 2009-10-17 18:20:58Z

Hi Nancy,

I'm interested to know what information you might have about the Johnston-Nixons in Kinarlagh.

Thanks,

Derek Johnstone
Etobicoke, Ont.

Re: ARNEY, IRELAND - Could some advise the Townland or Parish

marged127 — 2009-10-17 01:44:54Z

Arney (Irish: An Arna) is a small village in County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. It had a population of 114 people (along with Skea) in the 2001 Census. It lies to the southwest of Enniskillen, between the village of Bellanaleck and the Five Points road junction. Arney takes its name from that of a river feeding Upper Lough Erne. The village consists of around twenty houses and has two pubs: Tipplers and Connelly's. It lies within the Fermanagh District Council area.

Re: ARNEY, IRELAND - Could some advise the Townland or Parish

marged127 — 2009-10-17 01:44:35Z

Re: ARNEY, IRELAND - Could some advise the Townland or Parish

marged127 — 2009-10-17 01:44:11Z

Re: ARNEY, IRELAND - Could some advise the Townland or Parish

marged127 — 2009-10-17 01:43:54Z

Re: Fermangh, Enniskillen MCCAFFERTY'S

Marie Van Laeys — 2009-10-01 17:53:39Z

I am searching for information on the following McCaffrey's:
John McCaffrey born abt. 1780 married to Maggie Kelly
children: Margaret born abt 1835 married Bernard Loughrey
children: Bridget, born Castlefinn Jan 1857 died in Philadelphia in 1928
Margaret born abt 1855
Mary born abt 1860
Edward born Jan 1838 died 1908 in Philadelpia
married to Sally Martin

Re: Pavely/Sinfield/Mayhew

patrickoliverbrady — 2009-09-28 20:48:13Z

Hi Iain,

Greetings from Curragh, Kildare. Lizzie Bumstead, nee Brady, was my great grandfather's sister. I have family info from 1797 to date, including Lizzie and lots on Aussie cousins. I suggest sending you details of what I have by E Mail.

Slán go fóil,

Pat Brady

Re: Enniskillen-ADAMS,HUESTON,GILLEN,NOLAN,SHEENAN,SHANNON,HAYDOCK,GOODWIN

AnnetteCode — 2009-09-27 16:57:47Z

I have some favourite websites for searching in Ireland most generic:

www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom+Ireland+Co. Fermanagh

www.igp-web.com + County

www.familysearch.org has a search function on the main page, but if nothing worthwhile there see their New PILOT
by clicking in the top left hand corner 'search records' pull down menu and click PILOT. These records will give you a film number - click underlined name. Take anything pertinent to your nearest LDS History Center to few. Phone first as individual centers don't carry all records. If there is anything after 1863 the time of Civil Registration, records can be found at the General Registry Office in Dublin see the website www.groireland.ie
Anything between 1863-1875 I have on a CD and can look them up for you and post here. codeannette@yahoo.ca Enniskillen is on the border of two counties so records can be in either if they have a shared Registration District.

Annette Code
'genealogy for fun'
Annette Code

Re: Owen Patrick Doonan/Helen Gallagher

AnneRutherford77 — 2009-10-04 20:28:53Z

Hi Barbara,

Have a look at the following links.. they might assist

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Regards
Anne - Scotland

Re: HURST,MCCREADY,SPROULE

Evelynhaslett26 — 2009-09-21 21:42:25Z

Do you know if James had a brother named Robert and a Sister named Jane. Robert born abt 1849 Married an Eliza Frazer in 1873 and immigrated to New Zealand in 1874. His fathers name was also Robert Mccready he married a Jane McEntyne in 1836.

Robert and Eliza where married in the Church of Ireland Fermanagh.

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-22 17:52:16Z

Hi Helen

That's a lot to digest!!

I'll have to add that in to my tree as and when.

My main focus is in the male line through my dad, which at the moment is stuck at this Charles Montgomery. Although I'm also interested now in Elizabeth's father and his line as they are also Montgomerys.

I also want to go through my mum's lineage which takes in the O'Neills of County Down (where my mum was born and raised) and Davidsons in County Tyrone (my maternal grandmother's birthplace).

I may switch focus to this over the next few weeks, although I don't think I'll get too far as it would seem you need to be 'on the ground'in Northern Ireland to be able to check what records remain in person.

I'll be across this weekend but it's a short visit to pick up my son so unfortunately I won't have the opportunity to get down to Fermanagh.

I'll make the effort to get back up to the cemetery early next week and let you know how I get on. (Incidentally there are a fair number of headstones for Dunsmore/Dunsmuir).

I'd like to view your tree but I'm not sure I have the necessary privileges on here. I have a login but I don't have any kind of paying membership.

All the best

William

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-21 15:44:22Z

The 1861 census was the one I referred to in my original reply. They were living at 48 Hamilton Road, Newarthill.

I wondered why Mary wasn't on this return when you mentioned she too was a sibling of William, however I've found she married William Young Campbell on 4th Feb 1861 so when the census was carried out she would have been living with her husband and possibly his family.

I believe she was born about 1844 and died on 2nd July 1925.

It seems that George's father Charles may have been married to awoman also called Mary, Charles being born about 1790 and Mary about 1795. Unfortunately I don't have any more on them at the moment. I do have a theory though - I can't find any mention of a Charles Montgomery when I search through the Fermanagh records and I wonder if he came from outside the area. I think it probably needs a trawl through the parish records to find his marriage to Mary.

I took a trip up to the cemetery yesterday - I was wrong about Priestfield -it openened in 1981 not 1891 - wasn't wearing my glasses when I read it!!

I then went down to High Blantyre Churchyard Cemetery and walked about for an hour or so but to no avail. On my way home I drove down Hunthill Road and past Hunthill Lane.

However today I contacted the local council and obtained the following information:

On 12 November 1902 (the day after Elizabeth passed away) George purchased two lairs, Section I numbers 481 and 482. The Lairs were transferred to William Montgomery on 9 Sep 1906.

The following are interred in Lair 481 (the date is the date of burial):

Elizabeth Montgomery 24 Nov 1902 Aged 83
George Montgomery 21 Mar 1903 Aged 86
Thomas D. Montgomery 22 Oct 1907 Aged 3 months
William Montgomery 29 Jan 1920 Aged 75

Lair 482:

John Reid 25 Aug 1908 8 weeks
John B. Montgomery 21 Sep 1911 2 months
Jane Montgomery 9 Oct 1933 Aged 86

Some of that is quite tragic although not out of place for the time.

When I next get a chance I'll go back and find the Lairs, unfortunately there has been a lot of vandalism in the cemetery and a great many headstones have been knocked over and broken.

If I find them I'll take a photo and e-mail it to you.

All the best

William

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-20 12:27:03Z

Hi

I'm fairly sure now it's not a coincidence.

I was a bit reticent because somewhere else on this site someone has George, Elizabeth and eldest son William being born in Armagh, which obviously conflicts with the Fermanagh angle, however as my own dad spoke of Maguiresbridge I think they have got something wrong. Also there were very few Montgomerys in Armagh, most of them settling in North Down (Bangor, Newtownards) and West Ulster (Fermanagh/Donegal, possibly even into Cavan).

So it would seem our Grandfather's were cousins, both called William and born 4 years apart (mine was born in 1908, had one son, my dad and died in 1977), which means we share a Great Great Grandfather.

I was born and brought up in the area and indeed myself, my mother (my dad passed away 3 years ago) and my 3 sisters all still live locally, one in Priory Bridge, Blantyre.

On the extract of William's marriage entry it has him marrying Jane Black, daughter of John Black and Agnes Lang. I wonder if Jane was her given name but she was known as Jean - I don't think that would have been particularly uncommon.

I'm intrigued by the tale of George and Elizabeth and also the fact that there are no details of his parents on the extract of his death - although you believe his father's name was Charles.

I'll be taking a trip up soon to the High Blantyre cemetries (High Blantyre Churchyard and Priestfield Cemetry) and try and locate a headstone. I'm going to try Priestfield first as it opened in 1891 and with George and Elizabeth not having had previous ties to the area it seems more likely they would be buried there.

I'll also be checking the 1871 census as this should confirm the other children born between 1861 and 1871.

Many thanks once again for the invaluable information you've given me.

All the best

William

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-18 14:35:51Z

Hello

My grandfather was also William Montgomery and my great great grandfather William Montgomery was born c1844 (He's down as 16 in the 1861 census).

The George I've found who is this William's father died on 18 March 1903 in Blantyre, Lanarkshire aged 86 years.

Unfortunately no parent details are given on the extract of his death certificate.

His wife Elizabeth passed away a few months prior to him on 11 November 1902, her age stated as 83 years. This doesn't square entirely with the 1861 census which has her as 40 at that time but I understand that is a common problem at that time, where stated ages can be out by up to 15 years!!

On the extract of her death certificate her parents are given as William Montgomery, Agricultural Labourer (deceased) and Catherine Montgomery (nee Montgomery not Scott).

It could be the same people you are looking at or simply a really close coincidence.

If you come across anything to confirm or disprove the link please let me know.

Many Thanks

William

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-18 08:46:17Z

I'm sorry I can't answer you're enquiry however I would like to thank you as you may have put another piece in to my own jigsaw.

I have been doing some research through my dad's family.

I could recall him telling me that his father had told him that the family had come from Maguiresbridge.

In the last week, on checking my Grandfather's Grandfather's (William Montgomery) marriage entry for 12th May 1865 I found that his parents were George and Elizabeth (nee Montgomery)Montgomery.

I then checked the census for 1861 and found them in Newarthill in the County of Lanark. This listed George as being 45 years old and Elizabeth as 40. They had sons, William,George and Andrew and daughters Elizabeth and Sarah J. Both parents and eldest son William are listed as being born in Ireland with the other children being born in Scotland.

I couldn't find them in the 1851 census returns and therefore concluded that they must have come across the North Channel between 1851 and 1861.

As George was 45 in 1861 he must have been born in 1815/6.

I'm now wondering if this is the same George and Elizabeth that you are investigating?

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

william_montg66 — 2009-09-25 16:46:24Z

Hi Helen

I've sent you a couple of photographs of the headstones of David & Hannah and Annie.

All the best

William

GRAHAMS

maron17 — 2009-10-14 13:55:25Z

I believe that my great, great great grandfather George Graham was born in Fermanagh but moved with his parents James and Jane (nee Thomson)and his siblings to Stonehouse, Lanarkshire. Sometime before 1874. In 1874 George and his wife Sydney Thomson marries in Stonehouse. I believe however, that Sydney was also from Ireland (don't know where, though). James Graham parents were George Graham and Nancy Spiers, James were Alexander Thomson and Catherine Bruce and Sydney's parent were John Thomson and Dorothea (I think) Johnstone.

Does anyone know of the Graham and Thomson families?

PS I'm also posting this in the Surnames list.

Owen Patrick Doonan/Helen Gallagher

BarbaraODonahue — 2009-10-02 19:31:03Z

Looking for information about Owen Patrick Doonan who lived from about 1755 to ? and Helene Gallagher who was born about 1860. He is reported to have been born in Ballyshannon, Donegal, and she in Fermanagh. He is also reported to have married Mary Rogers. He had the following children: Margaret; Susan, Mary, Nellie (Eleanor), Owen Jr. Catherine, John (Jack) and Mary Ellen. All of the children immigrated to the St. Sylvestre area of Quebec in the mid 1800s. We are trying to identify where in either Donegal or Fermanagh these Doonans lived. The children were all reported born in Fermanagh. Can anymore shed iight or point us in the right direction?

Re: Humphries/Humphreys Irvinestown/Lowtherstown Fermanagh

irvinestown — 2009-10-06 00:10:41Z

Hi - I am probably not as directly related to your family, but since my last posting I have discovered that my great-great aunt Sarah (Sally) Humphrys went and married in Arthur Manitoba from Irvinestown. She married Frederick William Wickham in 1914 and they had at least one son.

Do you know why several Humphrys from Irvinestown went to Manitoba?

Best, Isabelle

Re: Humphries/Humphreys Irvinestown/Lowtherstown Fermanagh

suzannehumphries24 — 2009-10-06 15:02:41Z

There seems to be alot of Humphries emigrating to Canada but i don't know why maybe jobs? I don't know much about the Humphries family they are very difficult to trace. I have come across old photographs of Humphries family one of which was taken by a photographer in portage la prairie.

Re: Humphries/Humphreys Irvinestown/Lowtherstown Fermanagh

suzannehumphries24 — 2009-10-05 20:55:14Z

I'm researching Humphries from Fermanagh who emigrated to Porage la Prairie, Canada in early 1900's. All i know that my gg grandfather was called Edward Humphries . He had a son called Christopher my great grandfather who stayed in Northern Ireland.

Re: OVENS - OVANS Enniskillen, Fermanagh

BillLimebeer — 2009-09-28 13:47:17Z

I feel that there is probably a relationship to my Robert Ovens family who lived at Drumcrow County, Fermanagh, Ireland. Robert and Elizabeth were married in 1825 at the C of I church at Church Hill, Fermanagh. I have found many OVENS at Fermanagh but have not yet found Robert's parents.
Thanks for your reply
Bill
On.Can.

OVENS - OVANS Enniskillen, Fermanagh

kimelle_1 — 2009-09-28 04:11:45Z

John OVENS was born 4 Dec 1854 Enniskillen, Fermanagh

He married Fanny Matila born 1859 Manchester, Lancashire date unknown

He was living in New York from 1867 to 1919.

He arrived New South Wales Australia on the "Ventura" 06/01/1920.

Would like to learn about his ancestors

Re: Alexander McCreery

roberedw — 2009-09-22 00:17:30Z

is your mccreery the one who moved from augustus county, virginia to clark county, kentucky, finally settling in franklin county, illinois? according to our records, he was born in 1793, married a harrel in 1816, and settled in southern illinois about 1813. i am in my 80th year, and my gggrandfathers are mccreery, mitchell, otey and loomis. i would be interested in corresponding w you if we are talking about the same mccreery. i have a really good photoportrait of my gggrandfather and gggrandmother mccreery, dating from about 1885.

Re: DEVINE/KING

hazelgreen2519 — 2009-09-29 07:24:14Z

Hi i also have a Patrick devine born around the same time that married Grace Sommerville..... would like to make contact with you to discuss this further to see if there is any connection
Hazel Green

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-22 18:39:39Z

hi again,
i think you do have to be a member to view trees.but i can send you any information you want i have given you my email address on here.searching for irish ancestors seems very difficult.
best wishes
helen

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-26 00:31:50Z

hi william
thanks so much for that.
all the best
helen

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-21 16:23:41Z

i thought i would just say sorry for any spelling mistakes i am typing with one hand as i have sprained my wrist!!!

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-21 16:22:35Z

hi william,
yes i have mary as married to william campbell.mary died in 1925 at no 7 dixon street blantyre.her son william 1874-1952 married mary mckean on 29th nov 1895 at silverwells cresent in bothwell.they emigrated to australia on teh ss barraqbool,it arrived in victoria docks on 24th march 1924.

sarah jane montgomery born 25th dec 1858 she married james duke
children
george 1879
wiliam 1884
elizabeth 1886
in teh 1891 census sarah was lsited as living next door to her parents with her husband james duke a farmer

an 1863 married william burnett 1863
children
john 1885
george 1887
ellen 1890

david 1865-1955 married hannah murray 1865-1959
children
george 1897-1920
alexandrina 1901-1913
annie 1896
elizabeth 1896
barbara 1895
william 1899

geroge 1855
in 1891 census was living in front row no 1 blantyre
he was a coalminer
wife martha age 34 (martha russel 1856)
children
geroge aage9
john age 7
elizabeth age 4
mary age 2
agnes age 9 months

elizabeth 1852 married william sommerville
children
william 1878
elizabeth 1879

john 1869 married jane dunsmore on 24th feb 1893 in blantyre
children
william 1895
john dunsmuir montgomery 1897
alexander 1900
david dunsmuir m 1902
jean black m 1904
jessie 1907
mary robertson m 1908
elisabeth 1910

as you have,i also have goerges father as charles born abt 1790 in ireland ,but i cant find him and mary w/charles montgomery 1795 c

roberta butler his gggrandaughter in new zealand ,hired a researcher,appaernetly a birth cert was found in lisnaskea fermangh stating his parents wee charles montogmery and mary-- in 1815.

i have a private tree on here if you want to look i can open it for you.i still have quite a bit to add to it.it is just finding the time.i have been trying to fidn goerge and elizabeths parents for nearly a year now.

i did find this on elizabeth
a cousin or nephew of elizabeth,william ws in brooklyn in new york when he sent word to the family in scotland in 1905 that an alexander montogmery had died age 32 on 5th january 1900.alxander montogmery was teh son of the late sarah johnston montgomery

alexander and sarah were married 25th may 1863 in lisnaskea by licence.

a possible brother of elizabeth andrew married ann dolahan also born in ireland,they married in bothwell in 1856.

i would love to see photos of the graves if possible.oh something else maybe worht metioning is a suzanne sommerville on rootsweb page who it seems was also researching goerge and elizabeth.her posts were several years ago and i could not find any way of contacting her.i think possibly her connection is through their daughter elisabeth and her husband william somerville.

kind regards once again
helen

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-20 16:04:30Z

thanks for the reply.
my dads sister still lives in the house in loanhead where they grew up.i havnt actually been to scotland since i was 14!i have managed also to find some of teh marriages of george and elizabeths children.i have found geroge in teh 1861 cencus living in hamilton road bothwell,with elizabeth and children william 16,elisabeth 7 george 5 sarah j 2 and andrew 1 month.
in the 1881 census they were living in huntill davidson lane blantyre,with children george 25,sarah 21,andrew 19,annie 17,and david 15.

i also have several versions of william 1844's wifes name,jean,janet,jeanie and jessie black.i have her parents name but cannot get any furhter back with her.

my email add is helenmontgomery745@btinternet.com

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-18 21:30:53Z

hi,
im certain this is the same family.i have elizabeth montgomerys parents as william montogmery c1785 and catherine scott.apparently,george was a gardener for the big house and that eh and elizabeth the daughter of the house eloped.

elizabeth died on nov 11th 1902 in hunt hill blantyre.and george died in 1903.

they had married on 9th july 1842 in lisnaskea fermanagh ireland.

their son william 1844was one of 10 siblings.he married jean black and they were the parents of 12 children including my great grandfather andrew 1876-1954 he was married to christina ormiston
they had 14 children including my grandfather william,born on the 5th of august 1904 in gardiner place blantyre,he was a coalminer.he married mary allan stewart tennant on 29th april 1932.they had three children including my dad,and they also adopted one son.

Re: george montgomery and elizabeth 1815

helenmontgomery39 — 2009-09-18 11:51:57Z

hello,
it does sound as if we are tracing the same family.george 1815 was my great great great grandfather.his son william,1844 was my great greatgrandfather.he also had a sister mary born c 1844 in fermanagh ireland.
the family went to live in lanarkshire scotland.my grandfather william montogmery lived in loanhead midlothian where some of my family still live.

Ellen Kelly James Roper Enniskillen Fermanagh

AudreyWoodhouse212 — 2009-10-14 16:07:19Z

Iam looking for family members Kelly and Roper from Enniskillen Fermanagh 1833to1903 When they came to london

Searching for Birth Brother-Michael O'Callaghan

Wendy_Faiers — 2009-09-19 11:26:09Z

Hi..I am searching for somebody I beleive to be my birth brother..He was born 20th June 1945 in Oldchurch Hospital Romford England and given the name Michael..His mothers name was Margaret O'Callaghan and she worked as a ward maid at the same hospital..her address was 46 Mawney Road Romford.
I was born 9th March 1947 in the same hospital to Margaret Mary O'Callaghan, my mother also worked as a ward maid although the home address had changed.
I have copies of the birth entries in the register and the signature of the mother is the same on both entries.
I am not allowed obviously to know Michaels adopted name which makes it impossible to try and find him.
If anybody knows of Michael or recognises any of this information, please,please get in touch, I have been searching for a very,very long time.
Thank you for taking the trouble to read this.

Wendy

Enniskillen-ADAMS,HUESTON,GILLEN,NOLAN,SHEENAN,SHANNON,HAYDOCK,GOODWIN

scritters — 2009-09-25 20:27:03Z

Looking for any connections to the following surnames found in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Norther Ireland.

ADAMS,HUESTON,GILLEN,NOLAN,SHEENAN,SHANNON,HAYDOCK,GOODWIN

jandradeWSC@cox.net

Re: Humphries/Humphreys Irvinestown/Lowtherstown Fermanagh

cathygrain1 — 2009-10-08 01:55:30Z

Hi,
God only knows why they came here! They weren't farmers, so they didn't come for the great farm steading opportunities! Again, I'll see if my Mom knows anything when she gets home. My Grandma spoke highly of her grandfather. I believe he was a business man in Portage la Prairie. I would guess that one hearty soul travelled over and the rest followed. I know that my Grandma had her Uncle Ed's journal of his voyage over from the Old Country. I'm not sure where that went, but I thought it was rather interesting.

We know some Humphreys in our town that are no direct relation to us that we know of anyway. The next time we see them, I will have to ask them where their family came from exactly. Maybe they are related to you.

I have read your previous entries, and you mention that Irvinestown is not a large community, and that they were all descended from one man. In that case, if we go back far enough, we would have common ancestry. This is very cool, as we have traced the Squair family roots back a long way, but did not have as much success with Grandma's (Irvina, named after Irinestown) family history. Thank you!

Either my Mother, Diane Granger or myself will post more next week.
Cathy

Re: Humphries/Humphreys Irvinestown/Lowtherstown Fermanagh

cathygrain1 — 2009-10-05 22:55:38Z

Hello,
I was happy to receive your post. I phoned my Mom to ask her what my gg grandfather's name was, and she replied "Grandpa Humphreys". :)

She will be back in town next week though and she has a copy of g grandma's birth certificate. I will be able to get back to you re: his name. My g grandmother came with her family, except for one sister that remained in Ireland. My Mom has that info too.

My g grandmother, Elizabeth Catherine Humphreys, married Thompson Isaiah (sp?) Ethelbert Rutledge. How's that for a handle? His family was also originally from Ireland and had immigrated to Portage la Prairie Canada.

I'll post more next week.
Cathy