I am a decendent of Abram Lively. 1734 He came to the colony of Georgia to help the British fight the Spanish. I am looking for information about him in England. How do I go about this. Joan Williams
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I think you might do better to post on the general United Kingdom and Ireland board, or the general England board. This is specifically for the Historical British Empire. However I do not think you will get very far unless you can be more precise about exactly where in England he came from - assuming you are sure he was born in England as well.
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I am not sure that he was from England. I have heard that he was from Northern Ireland. But he was a Highlander and came to Georgia with James Oglethorpe. He came to Georgia in 1740. Thank You for answering my query.Joan
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halpark,
"This is specifically for the Historical British Empire" Georgia was one of the 13 original American Colonies under British Rule in 1740. It was chartered on June 9, 1732.
Any of the 13 original colonies are acceptable posts on this board because they were colonies of Great Britain.
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If he was a Highlander then he would be Scottish. Did your ancestor settle in Georgia or return home when his military service was completed? What specific information are you seeking?
I'm not familiar what early records would be available for Georgia; however, tax records and wills would be the most logical choices for that time frame, and for those you need to go to the county where he lived. Also have you found any muster rolls for the Oglethorpe's army?
I'm assuming that you are looking for your ancestor's homeland and maybe a will or tax record may have such information.
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This where one has to try to untangle a very tangled history. In the 17th century there was a deliberate movement to populate Ulster with Scots - roughly speaking to displace the old Irish nobility. By about the middle of the 17th century it is estimated that there were about 100,000 Scots living in Northern Ireland - so your man may well have descended from a Scottish Highlander (Highland family) but he would not himself be a real Highlander - he would be what is sometimes called Scots-Irish. I would still suggest you might get a bit more help - which is what these boards are all about - if you spread your net wider and a query on the Scotland (general) board might attract the attention of someone looking for something similar. Lively is definitely not a very common name so it would attract attention - have you thought of trying the name board, if there is one? If I have any more ideas I will come back.
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As far as I can see no one has even suggested that queries on the 13 colonies were not acceptable on this board, however the original poster says quite clearly "I am looking for information on him in England" and as far as I know England was never one of the American colonies - or strictly speaking,the Historical British Empire. The ruling party is not part of the ruled.
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Read the post again. The man was in Georgia . . .In the United States unless a person is an Native American everybody's ancestors come from someplace else. It doesn't matter if he was from England, Scotland or anywhere on planet Earth for that matter. The question is appropriate for this board because GEORGIA is one of the 13 American Colonies under British Rule.
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I could be totally wrong so forgive me if I am.
I noticed this on the web:
General Notes:
LIVELY, Alexander, born Burke Co., Ga., 1832, son of Matthew Lively (RS), and Elizabeth Odom; g-son of Abraham Lively, who came from Scotland and located in Ga. before 1750. In 1852 Alexander Lively m/1 Valinda Godbee, dau. of Moses Godbee (S-1812), and Martha Royal. They had one son, Mark. After the death of Valinda in 1861, Alexander married 2nd, Elizabeth, dau. of William and Eliza (Sapp) Kimbrell. Mr. Lively was a farmer, and a J. P. for many years and served one term in the legislature.
2nd Georgia Hussars, CSA.
So I wonder if Abraham came from Scotland. During the 18th century a lot of Scots left Scotland because landowners cleared their tenants from their farms,some went to Canada, America and Ireland.
Hope this helps
Eveline
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The "Clearances" are roughly dated from 1780 into the middle of the 19th century so I think if Albraham Lively was in Georgia before 1750 it was unlikely to be that. However it could be worth googling Scots-Irish - there is a mass of links about those who went to America. Just possible there might be a clue there. Another point - although the non-Conformist churches - and this was well after John Knox' Reformation - were quite keen on biblical names, Abraham and Moses could indicate a Jewish connection - bit way-out but until the answer has been found it could be anywhere!
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