Thank you for clarifying what that word says. I wasn't sure if it said "farm" or not.

The two forms that you attached on page one of this thread were not from the same year. He made two separate journeys. One of the passenger lists was from 1923, and the other was from 1928.

I wish I could find Cliff's arrival form for 1928. Then I would have the two matching pairs. So far, I have both forms (the passenger list and also Cliff's personal arrival form) for 1923, but only one for 1928 (the passenger list).

On the 1923 form his age is given as 19, and on the 1928 one his age is given as twenty something (I can't make out the second digit after the two, but by then he would have been about 24).

In the 1923 one, Clifford is listed on a form for British passengers (and the word British is underlined).

On the form for 1928, he is listed on a form called "Canadian government return" and is stamped as being a "returned Canadian." He apparently has some kind of Canadian citizenship or Canadian worker status by 1928. His passport is listed as having been issued in Ottawa in 1927. That might mean it's a Canadian one.

He is asked on the 1928 form: If in Canada before: between what periods? and he is recorded as having said "between 1923-1927."

I therefore conclude that he must have gone out to Canada initially for just four years. He was presumably intending to stay permanently, but then came back to Yorkshire for a year for some reason. Perhaps he was called back for a family bereavement to attend a funeral. Or perhaps he just got homesick and had saved up enough money for the passage home to come and visit his family. It says his father paid for his passage home, but I have not yet found a record to say who paid for his passage from Canada to the UK. Also, I have not yet found the passenger list for his journey back from Canada to visit the UK.

Whatever his reason for coming back to the UK to visit, he apparently had a job waiting for him to go back to in Canada in Snowflake in 1928. Thank you for finding those forms for me. It has been incredibly helpful.

I had reached the same conclusion that you did (about CPR standing for Canadia Pacific Railway) because when I Googled CPR and farming and Canada, that was one of the things that came up.

I have already asked about Cliff on the Canada boards (though not specifically about the form 30A). I have now found obituaries for his wife, son, and his daughter's mother-in-law. The obituaries have been really helpful because they had lots of names of relatives in them.

His wife's obituary mentions that she and Cliff came back to the UK for a visit in 1946:

"Rosa was born and raised on the family farm in Snowflake, Man. As a student she was active in school dramas, choir and curling. She and Cliff married and settled on a farm in Snowflake where son Brian was born. She taught herself to play the piano and organ, enjoyed many occasions of family music-making and became an active member of the ACW. In the early 1940s they moved to Carroll, Man., where son Ken was born. They travelled to England in 1946 with their two sons and returned to Carroll after one year. There she gave birth to daughters Sheron and Marilyn"

My mother remembers that visit. She was only four years old at the time but she remembers playing in the street on her tricycle with her cousin Ken. I would like to find some sort of record of the journey. If it was in 1946, presumably they would not yet have been travelling by plane at that time, and would still be going by boat. So I will hopefully be able to find a record of Rosa and Cliff travelling with their two sons, if I keep looking. Even though I don't need the record for confirmation purposes, as I already have two sources (my mum's memories and Rosa's obituary) that confirm that it happened, I would just like to see the documents for sentimental reasons.

Also, Cliff's mother Elizabeth apparently flew out from Yorkshire to Canada to visit her son Cliff when she was eighty years old. My mum says that she (Elizabeth, my mum's grandmother) had never been on a plane before until then. Imagine flying on a plane for the first time when you are eighty! I wish I could find some record of that journey but I don't know if records are kept for plane journeys in the same way that they were for sea crossings. If she was eighty at the time, it would have been in about 1958.