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Francis Lee

Raisen1 — 2009-10-31 20:30:23Z

Searching for a Francis Lee who died in 1714
wife: Tamar
Children:
Abigail
John
Tamar
Richard
Thomas
Anne
Arthur

Could this Arthur have moved to the United States?

Re: FARRER/SOWERBY

laurel1921 — 2009-10-30 18:46:50Z

Do you have any information about parents of John Farrer b. July 6, 1810? Or about parents of Isaac Sowerby?

anne oversby

kaz2kaz65 — 2009-10-20 10:11:30Z

hi I am looking for a anne oversby born abt 1838 in westmoorlannd. I am looking for her parents, she married a william mcevoy and have info from 1861 census.
thanks kaz

Re: Alice Hurst and Aughton Hall and Preston of Levens

katehurst — 2009-10-19 20:08:45Z

Just spotted this message now, Lesley, and I think we may have a connection somewhere.

My 4xgreat grandfather Joseph Hurst (b. 1792 Ormskirk) was the son of John Hurst (b.1772 Ormskirk) and Elizabeth Owen, who also had a daughter Alice Hurst. Alice married James Heslip, a butcher and their daughter was the Margaret you mentioned - although the church records at Ormskirk suggest that Margaret was born Margaret Hurst before her mother's marriage and took the name Heslip afterwards.

I have heard that there is supposedly a connection to the De Prestons, but I have not managed to confirm it yet. I do know, however, that Alice Hurst's father John Hurst was the son of Joseph Hurst (a shoemaker) and Margaret Preston but as yet I haven't found out much about Margaret at all. If there is a link, I think it will be in that section of the tree.

Re: Dowthwaite Family History

JEANTAYLOR23 — 2009-10-11 19:50:12Z

I am still looking for Robert Dowthwaite (1822) his father born late 1790- ? any help he was a miller.

jean

Re: William Mackereth (Mackereth) - Helsington, Westmorland

ElsbethPears — 2009-10-09 16:18:28Z

Hi I have in my family tree a William mackereth, son os Thos and mgt mackereth born 1827. in 1841 they were living at Crook Mill and he worked in the woolen industry.
Is this your William?

Re: Dowthwaite Family History

imd6662 — 2009-10-04 20:25:46Z

Have to say that it seems to me that there are little or no known connections between families of Douthwaites in Westmorland and those in Yorkshire, and other further-flung parts of the country.

I'm - too - interested in the branch at Akenthwaite.

Re: Mary CHAPELHOW born about 1814 at Colby,Westmorland

2009-10-04 17:44:02Z

Hi Denise,
After looking through I do not have a Richard I am afraid.I am missing a wife of one of my Thomas'. Please have a look and if any looks familiar I am willing to share what I have. Most of mine came from Bolton Appelby and Kirby Stephen.

I have 2 Barbara's 1726, 1780, Elizabeth 1752 3 Frances 1717, 1778, 1790, Isabel 1766, Jane 1775, 3 John's 1721, 1749, 1781
Johnathon 1718, 2 Mary's 1728, 1772, Peggy 1765
3 THOMAS' 1692, 1751, 1730 (married Barbara Bownasse the other Elizabeth Dent) ,3 Wiliam's 1723, 1784, 1758

Good luck sorry I wasn't more exact last night must have been having a moment!

Re: Mary CHAPELHOW born about 1814 at Colby,Westmorland

DChapplow — 2009-10-04 17:43:50Z

That would be great Judith if you have any information, I've definitly got as far back as Richard Chapelhow born 1772 in Kirby Stephen, his father was Thomas and mother was Margaret. The rest is all circumstantial unfortunately.

Denise

Mary CHAPELHOW born about 1814 at Colby,Westmorland

annesowerby — 2009-10-04 17:43:12Z

I am looking for any information about Mary Chapelhow,born about 1814 at Colby,Westmorland, who died in 1885.She was an the innkeeper of the Kangaroo Inn,Colby in 1881. Her grandaughter was my grandmother.

Re: John Thomas FAWCETT (b. 1849 Kendal region)

tanyadavis69 — 2009-10-04 05:01:40Z

Hi Peter,

I may be able to help you re John Thomas Fawcett if the parents names were John and Margaret.My email address is tanya_davis@live.com

Re: Wilsons of Ravenstonedale and Beckside

sandersonlyn — 2009-10-04 02:05:51Z

I have Isaac Wilson born 1821, (from census records). Married Sedbergh 1841 to Isabella Shaw, I have a copy of their marriage certificate, names James Wilson as father.
1851 Census states Isaac born Ravenstonedale.
Only appears to have had one child James Richard Shaw Wilson born 1845.
James Richard emigrated to New Zealand, where he died 1901.
I am a descendant of this James.
Have looked at your posting, yes possible link.
best regards Lyn

Re: Wilsons of Ravenstonedale and Beckside

sandersonlyn — 2009-10-04 02:05:20Z

Re: Douthwaite Family

imd6662 — 2009-10-01 22:44:10Z

Hmmm.... I wonder if anyone is still there.

I'm also researching Douthwaites form Westmorland and from Longsleddale, Staveley, Haweswater, and Shap in particular.

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

dianelr — 2009-09-28 13:21:58Z

Super! How exciting and thanks so much! I definitely need to pull out my Hutchinson research and pull together what I have with what you have found!

Without your thoughts and research -- I probably never would have gotten past James!

Diane :-)

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

cowenpauline — 2009-09-27 18:31:55Z

Diane, I've now found the will of Robert Hutchinson of Applethwaite, yeoman, dated 24.4.1820, Ref. R 515/120 No.7 at Lancashire Record Office, Preston, which mentions James.

Robert leaves Common to his son William, supervisor at Newark, Nottinghamshire, who is to pay out sums of £100 to each of his brothers and sisters from the estate. His sons Robert And Isaac are to have all his personal effects; son William is to receive £50; sons James, Christopher, George and daughters Margaret, Agnes and Mary to receive £10; £5 a year is to be paid to his sister Agnes, and the will also mentions his sister Ann's children.

Also, I made a mistake - the land tax was 1831, bit 1829.

Re: Thornebrughall, Strickland Ketel

JohnCampbell1948 — 2009-09-27 05:31:11Z

Hi Pauline,
That sounds wonderful. I have so far written several draft chapters. I have recently spent a lot of time in the Records Office in Kendal transcribing documents re Easter dues and the poor amongst other things. It is surprising that no comprehensive history of Bowness has, to my knowledge, ever been written, even though it is such a magnet for visitors and is also the only major settlement in Lakeland that is actually adjacent to a lake.
John

Re: Thornebrughall, Strickland Ketel

cowenpauline — 2009-09-26 13:19:34Z

John, I have a lot of information about Bowness and Undermillbeck, and am contacting you separately. I have a database of virtually all the residents of Applethwaite and Undermillbeck, with information about their families and where they lived, in 1671, and I can trace many of them through to the census of 1841. I'm currently trying to extend the database to include everything I can find from original records about the inhabitants up to that date - quite a big job! But I am willing to help anyone if I can.

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

dianelr — 2009-09-23 13:25:26Z

Thank you so much for the information and leads ... I feel like I'm back on the "hunt" now to learn more! Much appreciated, Diane :-)

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

dianelr — 2009-09-22 01:56:28Z

Thank you for the added information about the area and the parishes - the first mention of Applethwaite. I got so bogged down in trying to understand the geography and parish structure of the area that I have "paused" for a long time on this branch of my husband's family. Anything found would be much appreciated and your new information (to me) might invigorate my research!

Appreciate, Diane :-)

Becks from Kendal, Westmoreland in mid 1600s to mid 1700s

kenbeck — 2009-07-21 19:13:15Z

I am looking for linkage to a James Beck, born ca. 1710 in Maryland, US. His father's name is reportedly John Beck. James married Sarah Duvall and their children were named Samuel, James, Anthony, Richard,Osborne, Sarah, William, John and Ruth. I am directly descended from Anthony. James Beck was a local judge, and represented Arthur Beck of Maryland and Roger Beck of Kendal in the two brothers' attempt to claim a portion of their dead brother's (Capt. Anthony Beck) estate after said brother died at sea in 1749.
Any help would be appreciated. kenbeck928@aol.com

Re: Braithwaite, Silverdale in Lancashire

jenniwalling — 2009-09-16 08:21:51Z

Hi Carol

Did your John Braithwaite work in the Munitions Factory in Lancaster during World War 1 from 1915-17?
Was his Regisment Number 357342?

Regards
Jenni

Re: Braithwaite, Silverdale in Lancashire

jenniwalling — 2009-09-14 00:23:40Z

Hi Carol

My John Braithwaite, that I am looking for, I believe to be the elder born 1866.
Do you have any information regarding this person?

Regards
Jenni

Re: Errington Family Westmoreland England...

SusanMerkley — 2009-09-09 18:28:11Z

above post continued as I hit the wrong button!

Elsie 1770
Mary 1772
Thomas 1774
Charles 1779 to 1863. Charles married Sarah Robinson in Milburn Westmoreland in 1804 and they emigrated to Morrisburg, Dundas Co. Ontario Canada.
I am interested in finding out more about the family who remained in England. Please contact me if you would like to exchange information.
Sue in Canada

Errington Family Westmoreland England...

SusanMerkley — 2009-09-09 18:20:28Z

I am looking for information on the descendants of Thomas Errington b. 1725 Knock, Long Marton married Mary Hobson 1762 Dufton, Westmoreland.

Children

John b. 1763 d. 1789
Elizabeth 1764
Nancy 1768

Re: Thornebrughall, Strickland Ketel

cowenpauline — 2009-09-23 18:16:21Z

I think John may be right. The vill was a medieval unit of administration which would have been larger than the later area of Stricklandkettle. Angus Winchester is the authority on this - he wrote an article in the 1978 Transactions of the CWAAS about vills in West Cumbria. I think he has also written about Stricklandketel but I can't give you the reference.

Thomas Machell mentions Thornbarrow Hall in Undermillbeck in 'Antiquary on Horseback', written in the late 17th century:
'There is also a tenement which does suit at (Windermere manor) court called Thornbarrow Hall. It pays quit rent and greenhew to the King and five shillings per annum rent to Lord Wharton of Wharton Hall. This has belonged to, and been built by, the Thornbarrows - whence it is that we have their names, arms and pictures in the church windows'. (Windermere Parish Church at Bowness).
I think the Thornbarrows had probably gone a long time before, as no person or property of that name appears in the parish registers certainly after 1640. It is still there, if you google the name.

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

cowenpauline — 2009-09-21 23:33:09Z

A few things about the area your Hutchinsons came from which might help.

Windermere was called Applethwaite until the 19th C., so to find strays - people who were born there but living somewhere else - in the census you need to look up both. There were a group of Hutchinsons - Nathan, James and Robert living there in the late 18th C, and they all had a number of children, though I couldn't tell you who they all were. James lived at Common, a farmhouse which still exists just off the road between Windermere and Staveley. There was also a William, who lived at Winster and Crook, which roughly speaking are between Bowness/Windermere and Staveley.

The Hutchinsons disappear from Windermere in the early 19th C, but in 1851 most of their descendants live very close by, and in 1851 two of them, Nathan and Isaac, are farming at Staveley.

Windermere Parish Church is in Bowness beside the lake, and the parish includes Bowness (formerly Undermillbeck) and Windermere (formerly Applethwaite). All the other places are in the vast parish of Kendal, which had a large number of chapels of ease including Staveley and Crook. The IGI usually puts all entries under Kendal, so you can't tell whether people lived in the town of Kendal or one of the outlying districts, but the chapels actually kept their own registers. The chapel registers are often quite small so it's easy to find someone, though some were so small they did not always have a priest, so families might use a neighbouring one. The records of Windermere and Kendal parishes are on microfilm at Kendal Record Office.

I have a lot of records for Windermere but not Staveley. If I find anything that might be useful to you I'll let you know.

Re: HUTCHINSON ... Kendal or Windomore/Windermere? Westmorland

cowenpauline — 2009-09-22 20:58:38Z

I have done a bit more research. If you go to www.edenlinks.co.uk and look at the pages on the villages in Kendal ward you can find out a lot about the area, including the 1777 Window Tax. There were six Hutchinsons in the townships outside Kendal, all near Staveley, but none in Windermere itself. However, two, Robert and William, lived at Hugill, which is on the road between Windermere and Staveley, and close to Common Farm, where a Hutchinson family lived later. Then Nathan, Robert and James all appear in the Windermere parish registers in the 1780s/90s, and also William, although he lives at Winster and Crook.

I think they were related because the name Nathan and also Isaac appear in so many Hutchinson families in the area and also in Wales. Nathan and Elizabeth Hutchinson lived at Borrans in the 1780s and 1790s. This is on the border of Applethwaite and Hugill. There are two entries for daughters of James in the 1790s (I haven't got the whole register for the period)living at Common. Common belonged to Robert who left it to his son William in 1811. William lived in Nottingham so his brother Isaac was the tenant. He shared it with another brother George, who was churchwarden in Windermere in 1822, but Isaac seems to be on his own in the land tax of 1829. He is the only Hutchinson left in Applethwaite.

Sorry I couldn't find your James. He may be there on a page of the register that I haven't got, or at a nearby chapel. I found some one had written about him and another person about George on the Ancestry website.

Re: Robert FAWCETT b. abt. 1859 Bowness

mprobb — 2009-09-14 10:59:15Z

The Fawcetts' lodger - landscape painter George Robb - is a distant ancestor of mine. I'd be really interested to hear if anyone has any information about him. Judging by the census returns, he seems to have lodged with the family for a number of years.

I know this is an old thread, but I hope someone is still looking in!

Martin Robb

mprobb.wordpress.com

Re: JOHN & MARY BOWMAN

bowman0416 — 2009-09-26 05:11:15Z

I have a great great great grandfather names John Bowman his wife was Mary and they had one child Thomas Bowman

Thornborough family

AnnaD01 — 2009-08-29 16:12:22Z

I am looking for descendants of Thomas Thornborough b 14/7/1813 and died 14/6/1894. I have found a Thomas Thornburrow/Thornborough born in Kirkby Lonsdale on the same date but unable to go any further except he may have married a lady called Alice. I have come across some personel items that may be of interest to the family that suggest he lived in or near Burton Westmorland towards the latter part of his life. These items are of no monetary value but to family historian they are invaluable.

Leighton family in Westmoreland?

GeraldineRobredoL — 2009-08-09 21:30:08Z

Geraldine Robredo, nee Leighton, is researching her ancestors in the Kendal area of the Lake District in the North West of England. If anyone has any info, it would be gratefully received. Thank you.
Geraldine Robredo

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

TheAngrysheep — 2009-08-05 22:08:05Z

The middle name of Davis is on the 1881 census (one of their sons had Davis as a first name) .... but I cannot recall the source of the name Gibson (word of mouth I think) .... thanks for the advice.

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

TheAngrysheep — 2009-08-05 12:23:54Z

That is the reference I saw .... the dates fit John Davis Lamb was born in 1835 and we know Julia was from Kirkby Lonsdale from the 1881 census report

I am quite new to finding out these things so now I need to find out how I can verify the entry as being "my" John Davis ....

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

TheAngrysheep — 2009-08-04 22:57:38Z

Thanks

I saw some information on FamilySearch that may indicate that Julia's name was Croft so I really do need to dig a bit deeper - I guess I will need to see the marriage certificate to be sure ...

John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

TheAngrysheep — 2009-08-03 23:15:17Z

Census return for 1881 shows this family living in Strickland Place, Kendal, Westmorland. Julia Gibson was born in 1835 in Kirkby Lonsdale and John Davis Lamb was born in Kendal.

I am the great grand-daughter of their son Charles Herbert Lamb and would be pleased to have any information.

Re: WARD, HARROP, BIRKBECK, GARNETT AND MOON FAMILIES

suziebetsy — 2009-08-15 14:30:41Z

I am a decendant of Edward Harrop who eas born in Heversham/Preston Richard in 1791 - any good to you?

Re: Thornebrughall, Strickland Ketel

JohnCampbell1948 — 2009-09-26 07:49:08Z

Yes, the vill of Strickland (Ketel) was sometimes conceived as covering a wide area. I have some notes on it that I shall look up and add tomorrow. I am at present engaged in writing a history of Bowness and Undermilnbeck, the township in which it lies (or lay: townships as such no longer exist). If anyone has anything of interest, i shall be pleased to hear from them.

Re: Braithwaite, Silverdale in Lancashire

Lythe — 2009-09-16 10:38:55Z

Hi Jenni,
I believe we are talking about the same person, but could you correspond using the e-mail address given, as the family asked me not to discuss this online.

Carol

Re: Braithwaite, Silverdale in Lancashire

Lythe — 2009-09-16 08:15:29Z

Hello Jenni,
Yes,- I do have information regarding John Braithwaite born 1866.

e-mail: farleton (at) yahoo.co.uk

Regards
Carol

Re: Richard and Margaret Burnop, 1858 Immigrants to America

TenaShelton82 — 2009-07-14 21:55:38Z

Hi, I am in the Smythers line from Wytheville, Va. My grand
father was William Robert Smythers. Are you kin to Mary Smythers that married Isaac Roseberry? If you hae any info
on the Smythers I would appreciate comparing notes.
Tena

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

chrisjwest — 2009-08-04 22:19:51Z

Hi,

The row of houses, named Strickland Place in 1881, are still there but the road has been renamed Burneside Road.

If you're looking for church entries, St. Thomas' C/E and Strickland Methodists are closeby.

Also a lot of weavers and dyers lived in the general area.

Hope this helps

Chris

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

chrisjwest — 2009-08-05 10:06:20Z

John Lamb & Julia Croft

Mar 1860 - Kendal Registration District

Ref - 10b 703

Is this the right one?

Re: John Davis Lamb m Julia Gibson

chrisjwest — 2009-08-05 22:01:12Z

There seems to be conflicting information between your subject title and the marriage in 1860.

I would suggest more detective work before ordering the marriage certificate to avoid ordering the wrong one.

Although it may be right, as Kirkby Lonsdale was within the Kendal Registration District at that time, you may wish to check the 1871 & 1861 censuses if you have not already done so. If the 1861 shows them without children or with a baby, then this could be their marriage.

Alternatively you could order a birth certificate for one of their children (say your direct ancestor) and you should find that the mothers maiden name is quoted.

Where did you obtain the 'Davis' and 'Gibson' in the title?

Re: Ambleside - parish records and other resources pre-1837

chrisjwest — 2009-08-07 19:02:51Z

Sorry no information about the people involved, but you may find that Ambleside is in Grasmere Parish, not Windermere.

Good Hunting

Chris

Re: Becks from Kendal, Westmoreland in mid 1600s to mid 1700s

chrisjwest — 2009-08-07 18:59:17Z

Have you enquired at South Westmorland Family History in respect of Roger?

Re: Leighton family in Westmoreland?

crusoe123 — 2009-08-12 21:15:48Z

If you want help in researching, you should give names and ages of the people you are interested in. Do you want census returns, parish records, or what?

Ambleside - parish records and other resources pre-1837

mkendall11 — 2009-07-13 21:54:05Z

Does anyone have access to Windemere Parish records, specifically for Ambleside?

I'm looking for the parents and siblings of Isaac Cookson (13 May 1808 - 11 Feb 1889) of Ambleside, living on Church Street in the later census records. In reviewing these census records it appears I had his mother's name wrong, which means maybe I have his father's name wrong also. I had Thomas and Ann, but I found his mother listed as Agnes, a widow in the 1851 census.

Headed back to the 1841 census to see if I can find her there, maybe with a husband too!

Re: WILKIN family of Brough & Appleby

Vant21 — 2009-09-08 00:16:14Z

I finally have information on the Wilkins that you requested by letter in 2000. The difficult one to find was the baptism of Priscilla Wilkin (she later married Thomas Dawson Lumb) as it was only in the Parish registers for Appleby, not the Bishop's Transcripts on which the IGI is based. "1784...Priscilla daughter of William Wilkin Esq. Surgeon Appleby & Priscilla his wife Baptized June 8". Seems that another Wilkin descendant married a Lumb (William married Harriet Lumb 1881, his 2nd cousin) & Blanche Lefroy Whittell married Samuel Key, a Lumb descendant.
I'm still at the same address, what about you?
Diane

Re: Lund/Hunter - Sedgwick/Heversham/Barrow/Ulverston/Tebay/Orton/Utah,USA

kathstrickland — 2009-07-10 17:36:53Z

Many thanks for trying. I guess that Betsy Lund/ Alderson is going to be very difficult to trace,
Kath