Should have mentioned I have Great Bolas registers also.

could you please look up the Thomas Morris family. I have an address of Bromley, Bridgnorth, shropshire england and also Sara Morris of Kemps Eye Farm Shresbury, Shropshire England.
Thank You.

I'm not sure if you can help or not but I'm searching for my family history around Church Stretton:
My Great Grandfather is Edwin Bromley
b. Aug 02 1885
Smethcott, Shropshire, England
d. Apr 28 1973
Osceola, Iowa USA
m. Betton, Alice J
Apr 12 1912 Church Stretton Shropshire England

any information or links are greatly appreiated:
~ Bryan Scott Fisher ~ scottfisher64@hotmail.com
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1881 England Census 1881 England Census
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Name: Francis W. Bromley
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Smethcott, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Smethcott
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: The Coppice Farm
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
Occupation: Farmer Of 137 Acres Employing 1 Laborer
Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
===========================
Francis W. Bromley 35
George Bromley 4
Henry W. Bromley 9
Jane Bromley 10
Mary A. Bromley 39
William Bromley 8
Thomas Parry 20
===========================
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2623; Folio: 74; Page: 5; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341631.
Source Information: Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.
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My Great Gradfather Edwin Bromley was born Aug 02 1885 and was 15 years old at the time of the 1901 England Census:Francis W. Bromley was 55
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1901 England Census about Edwin Bromley
Name: Edwin Bromley
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's name: Francis W
Mother's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Smethcott, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: All Stretton
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Stretton
Town: Church Stretton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members:
Name Age
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Edwin Bromley 15
Francis W Bromley 55
George Bromley 24
Mary Ann Bromley 59
William Bromley 28
==============================
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Bromley, Francis W.
b. 1846
Smethcott, Shropshire, England
d. Smethcott, Shropshire, England
m. Hall, Mary
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Hall, Mary Ann
b. 1841
Llanfechain (Brun)
d. 1911
Church Stretton, Shropshire
m. Bromley, Francis
======================================================================================
Bromley, Edwin (Son of Francis W. & Mary Ann (Hall) Bromley)
b. Aug 02 1885
Smethcott, Shropshire, England
d. Apr 28 1973
Osceola, Iowa USA
m. Betton, Alice J
Apr 12 1912
Church Stretton Shropshire England
d. 1945 ??????????

I'm not sure if you can help or not but I'm searching for my family history around Church Stretton:
My Great Grandfather is Edwin Bromley
b. Aug 02 1885
Smethcott, Shropshire, England
d. Apr 28 1973
Osceola, Iowa USA
m. Betton, Alice J
Apr 12 1912 Church Stretton Shropshire England

any information or links are greatly appreiated:
~ Bryan Scott Fisher ~ scottfisher64@hotmail.com

I am looking for any information/documentation for the Family of Pritchard. John Pritchard, b. 1777, son of Samuel & Mary Pritchard. If you can help, that would be great!!

Hi Laurie

Can you tell me which particular Parish registers that I mentioned would you like me to look at ?

Tony

Dear Tony:

I am looking for information on James and Sarah MEREDITH, married abt 1790 in Roche Green. They had a Richard MEREDITH born abt 1792 in Roche Green. Information on Richard and any siblings would also be appreciated.

Any information you have on the MEREDITH's of Roche Green in this timeframe would be helpful.

Thank you.

Douglas MEREDITH

Hi Tony

William Russells wife, Jane Jones was born in Cleobury about 1801. Have you got any records for that area?

June

Hi June

This could well be your Jane Jones especially if at some time William and Jane had children named David and/or Elizabeth.

Don't worry where the word burial appears - this is for certain from the baptism register.

Shropshire: Cleobury Mortimer, Hopton Wafers - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
Burials
Book 4. Baptisms in Book 4. From 1754 to 1812.
Written on the Parchment Cover the following entries:--
County: Shropshire
Country: England
27 Nov 1795 Jane, d. of David & Eliz. Jones.

Let me know what you think.

Tony

Hi Tony

Thanks for the info.I just don't know if its right. All I've got to go on is her age was 40 on the 1841 census and 54 in 1851 and born in Salop Cleobury. It could be right but regarding the children she had four boys and none of them were named David.

Do you have any records of St. Martins Birmingham. I found a marriage of William Russell and Jane Jones in 1820. Would it give the brides parents names?

I also found a Jane Jones christened at St. Martins Birmingham 1801 and her parents were William and Sarah.

Anyway thanks for all your help. Let me know if you have any more info.

June

Hi June

Did the four boys happen to be Joseph, William, John and Edward.?

Tony

Hello again Tony

No the boys were called William Edward George and Alfred. Two were right


June

Tony

Now I think about it Alfreds second name was Joseph.

June

Hi June (me again)

I haven't got the Parish Records for Birmingham.

I am becoming more certain that the Jane Jones I found is the correct one.

The census for 1851 was taken I am pretty sure in April. If Jane's birthday was after April in that year then she would become 55, which would mean she was born 1786. I am pretty strict when I come to accepting anything as correct, but in the absence of finding anything else, if it were my history I would accept it. Most of our poor ancestors were not able to read or write, and a couple of years either way was not unusual. They were pretty clear where she was born, and I would say Cleobury is correct, although in the area is Cleobury Mortimer and Cleobury North.

Could you tell me where her children were born and their names ?

Tony

Hi again Tony

Janes four chaildren were all born in Dover in Kent where they moved to after they were married I imagine.

As I said before they were William Edward George and Alfred Joseph.

Hi Maureen

Can you tell me exactly what you would like me to look at
i.e. Census, Parish Records. What sort of year and where ?

Could you reply to me direct at

aes@talktalk.net

Tony

Good morning Tony!

I couldn't get thru by aes talktalk.net it would get me to the page for Sandland & someone else. Sorry.

I'm looking for the Morris (sometimes seen as Morriss) family from 7 Bromley, Bridgnorth, Shropshire & Kemps Farm, Shrewsbury. My grandfather was Joseph Morris born 1890, St. Leonards Parish. His brother Albert & wife lived in Shrewsbury till WW1 but he died in the war but his brother (not sure which one married his widow. We always believed that my greatgrandmother was Marlowe before she married but by what I'm finding is that she was Barlow. Mary was her first name than she married a man named Fogerty and had 3 children then married my greatgrandfather Thomas Morris. Thomas was originally from Ireland but I can only find them in the census, so it doesn't tell me where in Ireland. I have censuses & immigration of my grandfather but that's about it.(He came to the U.S, in 1910. Any info on them is appreciated. There was a William, John and Mary(called Molly) Fogerty, than Albert, Thomas, Joseph, Frederick and Elizabeth (for some reason the census called her Lily but my middle name is Elizabeth and my grandfather called me Lizzy after his sister.

Thanks Again

Maureen

Hi Tony.
I see you are still busy helping folk.
I am looking for a marriage between William Pickerill and a
Ellen,not sure of her surname.Possibly in Hodnut,or other parts.The marriage would have been I feel in the late 1820's there first born Son was born in 1829 in a place called Pennington Shropshire.

Also a lookup for a birth record for Ellin Pickerill b.1830
born same place as Richard.

Any help will be appreciated.

Irene.

I think I'm getting the hang of this site. We can only hope!
Tony any help is appreciated.

Mary Barlow (m) Patrick Fogerty 1878
William, John, & Mary

Mary Barlow Fogerty (m) Thomas Morris 1885
Albert, Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth
there could be others but....
Shropshire, Salop, Bridgnorth, 3, Bromley

Hi Maureen,

Neither the marriage of Patrick FOGERTY to Mary BARLOW in 1878 or the marriage of widow Mary FOGERTY to Thomas MORRIS in 1885 are in the register of the two main Church of England churches in Bridgnorth. Being Irish, I didn't expect to find them.

I believe Patrick FOGERTY may have been a widower when he married Mary BARLOW. See the marriage on FreeBMD June qtr 1855 in Bridgnorth to Bridget LOFTUS. Bridget died in April 1876.

Thomas MORRIS, Labourer, age 72 of Bromley near Bridgnorth was buried in Bridgnorth on 22 Sept 1926. Grave No. 680G Unconsecrated ground.

Gwynne Chadwick
Transcribing the Bridgnorth town census and other records.
http://www.chadwickg.freeserve.co.uk

None of my records help I am afraid.

Tony

Hi Irene

"When shall we two meet again" ??

I see you are still on the Pickerill trail. I think we may have been in this area before, but the place you read as Pennington (which I cannot find anyhwhere in Shropshire) is in fact Donnington (not far from Wellington, Shropshire) - I see Richard with father William in Willenhall Road, Wolverhampton in the 1851 census.

I shall pick up the case again from there.

Tony

Hi Douglas

No luck in my records I am afraiud.

Tony

thank you for your help.
It's the correct Thomas but wrong Patrick.(too old b.-1829). Would you happen to know the name of the cemetery that Thomas is buried in?

Thanks again!!!

Tony,

thank you for trying!!

Hi Maureen,

who said;
"It's the correct Thomas but wrong Patrick.(too old b.-1829)"

I don't agree. I still believe it is the correct Patrick.

Based on the information you supplied, this is 'your' Mary MORRIS, formerly FOGERTY, nee BARLOW on the 1891 census;

RG12/2094 1+ Enum. District 2. Folio 25B. Sch 48.
82 Cartway, Bridgnorth, Shropshire.

Thomas MORRIS, H, Mar, 34, Agric Lab, Ireland.
Mary MORRIS, W, Mar, 33, Char woman, Dawley Green.
John FOGERTY, Step Son, 13, Bridgnorth.
William FOGERTY, Step Son, 11, Bridgnorth.
Mary FOGERTY, Step Dau, 8, Bridgnorth.
Thomas MORRIS, S, 5, Bridgnorth.
Albert MORRIS, S, 3, Bridgnorth.
John MORRIS, S, 10 mth, Bridgnorth.

We agree she married Thomas MORRIS in 1885.
Previously she had married Patrick FOGERTY in 1878 so this is Mary (still saying born Dawley Green) on the 1881 census;

7 North Gate, Bridgnorth, Shropshire.
RG11/2629/15 Page 21. (from the LDS transcript, not my own)

John P. FORGATY, Head, M, Gardiner (Dom) 48, Ireland.
Mary FORGATY, Wife, M, 26, Dawley Green, Shropshire.
Jonah FORGATY, Son, 2, Bridgnorth, Shropshire.
William B. FORGATY, Son, 3 mths, Bridgnorth, Shropshire.

So, based on above, John P FOGARTY was born approx. 1832.
However, just 3 years later on 21 Sept 1884, John Patrick FOGARTY, Labourer, age 60 was buried. So was he born in 1824?
On the 1861 census, the Patrick FOGERTY married to Bridget nee LOFTUS, was aged 32, so was he born approx 1828.
Patrick & Bridget had at least two children James & Michael.

There was only one Patrick or John Patrick FOGARTY on the Bridgnorth census. Born apparently any time between 1824 to 1832.

All post 1855 burials referred to would be in Bridgnorth Municipal Cemetery.

Mary BARLOW seems consistent with her age - born 1854 in Dawley Green.
On an index for the Dawley 1861 census, there is a Mary BARLOW, age 6, dau of William B & Maria, with four siblings.

Gwynne.
Transcribing the Bridgnorth town census and other records.
http://www.chadwickg.freeserve.co.uk

Hi Tony I'm very new to this so would truly appreciate any help you can give me. So far I've found the following Ann Hayward was born c1833 in Ellesmere Shropshire, her married surname was Randles (? his first name)Her mother was also Ann Hayward c1796 born in Ellesmere.

She had a brother John c 1826 Ellesmere, and a sister Mary c1822 Ellesmere.

Ann had a son Edward Randles c1866 born in St Martins Shropshire who married Margaret c1865 born in St Martins Shropshire.

If you could help with any gaps or give me an idea of where to go next it would be very gratefully received, as I seem to have come to the end of this line.

Hi there

Leave your query with me. I have not got particular records
myself for Ellesmere, but I have access to quite a bit.

Will contact you again.

Regards

Tony

Hi there again

I might have found the first piece of the jigsaw for you.

I found Ann and children on the 1871 census (have you seen that?) Ann is described as a Widow, and since Edward was only 5 years of age, it would mean that Ann's husband must have died between 1865-1871.

There is a death of a RICHARD RANDLES aged 39 years in 1866 in the Oswestry Registration District (which covers St. Martins and Ellesmere) I would say this is almost certain to be Ann's husband.

I will next search for their marriage.

Tony

Hi - me again.

More interesting things for you. I am not sure if you have any of this information. If you have, please let me know. If you haven't then I can send you copies of the records.

I haven't as yet found Ann Haywards marriage, but I am now convinced that her husband was Richard Randles (spelt in different ways at different times)

I looked for them on the 1861 census, just after Mary Jane was born. I couldn't find them at first, but subsequently found that Richard Randles was lodging in Toxteth Park, Lancashire. I think that is Liverpool. He was described as a Carter.

I then found Ann and their first child Mary Jane visiting Ann's mother in Ellesmere. They were described as visitors. She was marked down as Married and also described as a "Carters wife". That's a clincher for me.

Anyway, I think the pub is calling soon. My wife and I are going out with her Dad. He is 82 and just had a new hip. (We are going to test it out on the pub steps)!!!!

Will get back on the trail tomorrow.

Please let me know if you would like me to send you any of the records.

It might be better to e mail direct to me because I can't send the attachments through ancestry. My e mail is

aes@talktalk.net

Regards

Tony

Hi (I must be loading your inbox up)!!!

I am just wondering if a little bit of my detective work has worked.

Do you happen to be Wendy who has Ann Hayward posted on genesreunited. I always look there when I am researching to see if other people are researching the same name.

If so, you must be Wendy Walker. Am I a good detective, or is that wishful thinking.

If you are Wendy as on genesreunited, it might be helpful if I could have a look at your tree.

Let me know what you think of it so far ???

Tony

Hi

It seemed as if there might be a problem with a main message I sent you. Can you let me know how many e mails you received from you.

Anyway, I have solved the Ann Hayward (Haywood) marriage.

As I had found Richard in Liverpool on one census in 1861, I had a look back at the 1871 census. Ann's eldest child was Mary Jane born c. 1860, and she was born in Liverpool. I have now found a marriage in Liverpool in 1866. Ann Haywood and Richard Randles. It looks to me as is Ann Haywood had Mary Jane before she married Richard Randles.It looks as if Richard Randles was the father of Mary Jane though because she took the Randles surname. She then had Joseph Randles in about 1862 and again Joseph had taken the Randles surname. He was born in St. Martins. It looks as if by the time that Ann was expecting or had just had Edward, they decided to make it all legal, so got married in 1866.

It even looks now as if there might have been some significance in that they married in 1866 and Richard died in 1866. It is beginning to look that maybe he might have been dying when they married, and did so for the sake of the children.

A very interesting story in any event.
This is now rolling along nicely.

Regards

Tony

Hi Tony
Hope you had a good night out last night - Many many thanks for filling in the gap for me, I really do appreciate all your time and effort. Yes I am the Wendy on the Genes reunited website and if you contact me via there i will give you access to my tree to what i know already. I can also give you my e-mail address. Sorry it's a short message but I'm in work and just checking my e-mails, so will contact you again when I'm at home and not clock watching!!

Again Many thanks and kindest regards - Wendy

Hi!!
I ran with some of the info you gave me on Loftus. By doing so I possibly found my greatgrandfather in County Galway Ireland (before he immigrated to England). I need to check more deeply but I think that it's him. I'll let you know. Thanks for all your help once again.
Maureen

Hi Tony,

Is it possible for you to do a look up for me in your parish registers for a Alice Dodd born 1870, Whitchurch Shropshire, and also an Ellen Jenkins born c 1843-48, thanking you in advance Marie,

Hi if would you be able to look up Gittings-Broughton family.
There was a James Gittings-Broughton that lived in gothersley roundhouse. he was a farmer by trade
there is also Broughton in the family as Gittings-Broughton was made up (by deedpole)to claim some sort of will etc James fathers name was Samuel Broughton mothers name was Mary Ann Broughton (formerly Gittings) they were from around the shropshire area.
any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Jason

Hello Tony,
I have found myself facing a brick wall again and need your assistance. The parosh records for Much Wenlock, I hope
you have them, for the marriage of Thomas Watters and Jane Davis married on June 15 1810 Cound Salop. On the 1851 census Jane states she was born in Llanyngnon Montgomeryshire Wales.I am looking for her birth date and name of her parents. Thankyou Joyce

Tony,

I haven't seen your replies to Shropshire lookups in awhile - are you still doing them? Your personal e-mail bounced back, so I thought I would try the Rootsweb forum.

Let me know, please,
Laura

Hi Tony
Would you be good enough to let me know if your look-up offers extend to the Mkt.Drayton ,Cheswardine and surrounding areas please?
Many Thanks
Dennis
North Yorkshire

Hi Dennis

I can't promise, but please let me know what you are looking for, and I will look in my available material.

Regards

Tony

Hi Tony
Many thanks for your kind offer.A substantial branch on my tree are a family named SHROPSHIRE who are mainly from the Market Drayton and Cheswardine areas.
In particular I am searching for the following:-
Marriage of Wm.Baker & Emma SHROPSHIRE @Cheswardine 1866-68;
Birth of Hannah Ray about 1790 Mkt.Drayton;
" Hannah Edge " 1760 "
" John SHROPSHIRE " 1730 Stoke upon Tern
" Mary Bedson " " "
" Elizabeth Lea " 1792 Cheswardine

Marriage of Thomas SHROPSHIRE & Mary ?? Mkt Drayton about 1785;
Hope this isn't too many to bother you.
Thanks again
Dennis

Hi Dennis

Here is maybe the first bit of info for you.

Can you tell me whether it ties up with anything you have.?

The first marriage you mention you say Wm. Baker and Elizabeth Shropshire married about 1866-1868. What have you based that estimate on ?

Anyway, here is the first bit of information.

Shropshire: Edgmond, Tibberton, Waters Upton, Great Bolas, Eaton Constantine - Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese
Marriages, 1754-1799.
Marriages, 1754-1799.
This Register Book for Edgmond, Bought in the year of Our Lord 1719, by Francis Adams and William Carter.
County: Shropshire
Country: England
27 Feb 1793 Thomas Shropshire & Mary Turner.


I am not sure how well you know this Shropshire area, but Edgemond not too far away from Cheswardine.

Let me know what you think.

Regards

Tony

Hi Dennis

I seem to be coming up for the Shropshire family witrh a village called Pickstock or Pickstock Grange. Does this mean anything to you ?

Tony

Hi Dennis

Apologies for another e mail, but could you possibly tell me whether you have any online trees or other message board posts to save me duplicating things.

Do you happen to have online something called the "Baker family tree".?

Regards

Tony

Hi Tony
Many thanks for your efforts and the 3 e-mails.First of all I am not personally familiar with the area but learning fast through maps.I have never heard of Pickstock.
My own tree is on Ancestry as the Baker Family Tree and includes my Shropshire arm(names and county)-hope you can make some sense of it if you can access it.
As to Wm.Baker and Emma Shropshire they were both born in 1845 in Stoke and Cheswardine respectively and as far as I can ascertain their first child Rebecca was born in Dresden,Stoke in Jan.1869-hence my suspicion they were married from their 21st birthdays to the date of their first born.
Thanks for the data on Thomas Shropshire but the Thomas I had in mind had a son Thomas in 1790 at Mkt.Drayton so I wonder if the 'Edgemond' Thomas is another one?
Many thanks again for your troubles.
Dennis

Hello

Pickstock Grange is at Chetwynd in the east of Shropshire. It is 2.5 miles NNW of the town of Newport, Shropshire.

Mike

As a novice genealogist, this is my first experience of using the message boards, so hope I am not using it wrongly! I came across this discussion when googling for information on the Parish register for Much Wenlock, Shropshire. I am trying to trace my ancesters the Gethin family( spelt several different ways in my experience). Hannah Gethin, born in about 1800 in Much Wenlock, married Charles Clayton, but I know nothing about her before her marriage. The IGI shows a Hannah Gethen baptised in 1799, parents Thomas and Hannah. Would the Much Wenlock registers tell me any more about her or her family, and if so, is there any way to access the registers other than visiting the Archives?

Hello -

Would you be able to look up/confirm the birth/christening details of my great great grandmother -

The only information I have is :

HARRIET WILLIAMS
b. 1826 and c. October 1829 DAWLEY MAGNA, SHROPSHIRE

Parents - BENJAMIN WILLIAMS and SARAH GARBETT

In 1847 Harriet was tried and convicted of stealing and transported to Tasmania for 7 years.

Could SKS please view the 1841 and 1851 census to see who is missing their daughter Harriet.

No other information regarding Benjamin and Sarah are known.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.