A big thanks for the reply and info!

I'll keep this in mind, but first I think I need to get a copy of Charles Arthurs birth certificate then I can be sure of his dad Walter, and who he married.

I did find this which is of interest but im just pulling at loose ends until I get his birth cert http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=...

He is shown as a boarder (so maybe the head of the house didnt put his middle name? doesnt sound unthinkable). He is shown as Miner (what his marriage cert shows) and born in Handborough (although the transcribtion shows wanborough). I also know at some point before marrying (at age 25) he moved to yorkshire, and met and married Sarah in ryhill. Although my grandad isn't sure of what year etc..