I have been reviewing my information. I do not have much on Fred (Frederick). I have been trying to update marriages but I do not have enough information from reliable sources. I have even wished I had pictures of Herbert and Sarah. I have pictures of Albert, and Edith and Harold and his wife Thelma. Margaret Hartshorn sent me pictures of Mary Charlotte Briggs Knight, sister of Herbert. The fun thing is when I showed it to Walter, He said It looks like a fatter version of my Mom, (Hilda Briggs Smith). I wish the free index would at least list one parent. Thank you for answering my message so quickly. Joyce