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records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

Posted: 21 Feb 2012 1:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PULLEN MCKENZIE MACKENZIE
I believe Ellen Maria Louise PULLEN married an officer McKenzie (or Mackenzie) in the CI in September 1906. According to her daughter, 'Mum stayed with her cousins in the Channel Islands where her Uncle was Colonel of the garrison. I believe it was a Guards Regt. Mum married one of the officers – who was from Melbourne – but he was killed on their honeymoon when the train crashed' at Grantham on 19/9/1906.
Any suggestions?

Re: records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

Posted: 24 Feb 2012 6:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Channel Island marriages are not on-line but I can have a look at the Jersey records next week.

Do you know which island or the names of the cousins?

Re: records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

Posted: 24 Feb 2012 9:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PULLEN ANDREWARTHUR McKENZIE or MACKENZIE
Thank you very much for your offer to look up the Jersey records - unfortunately no, I don't know which Island.

What I wrote is all I know of Ellen, except that her parents were Thomas PULLEN and Elizabeth ANDREWARTHUR, and that she was born at Orroroo in South Australia; perhaps the cousins were either PULLEN or ANDREWARTHUR.

Re: records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

Posted: 29 Feb 2012 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have not been able to find a Pullen/Mckenzie marriage in Jersey.

Re: records of marriages in Channel Isles 1906

Posted: 29 Feb 2012 12:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much for looking for me - maybe it was on Guernsey. I had wondered if it might have been in London, but have found no record there, and would expect that having relatives in the CI, it would be there.
Thanks again. Carol

Re: Mackenzie Deaths in Channel Islands - probably Guernsey

Posted: 14 Sep 2014 7:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me as I am trying to find the marriage then death and obituary, census details and any other information on Roderick Mackenzie/Mckenzie who married a Fanny Chaseau Matthews in St. Peter Port sometime around 1884. I believe he was born around 1820 probably in England and the obituary may mention where he came from etc. Fanny died on the Isle of Wight in 1921 and I think she came from Guernsey for some generations. I have never researched anything in the Channel Islands and do not know where to start. I hope someone can assist please. Thanks. Michael Tench

Re: Mackenzie Deaths in Channel Islands - probably Guernsey

Posted: 14 Sep 2014 3:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
I couldn't find an obituary but there is a death announcement in the Star newspaper Oct 22 1885 - Died - On Oct 21st at his residence No. 1 Victoria Crescent, Victoria Road, Roderick MacKenzie Esq., Late C.S. "Education Dept." Deeply Regretted.

The 1871 and 1881 censuses are free to view at familysearch.org

In 1881 the family are at 1 Victoria Crescent:
Roderick MacKenzie age 62 (birthplace not given)
Fannie MacKenzie age 32 born Channel Islands
Colin MacKenzie age 3 born London
Donald MacKenzie age 1 born London

In 1871 I think Roderick is at Camberwell, London. age 56, his place of birth is given as Canterbury, Kent. His wife is Harriet aged 56 born Guernsey.

You can see fuller information and the census image on FindMyPast. You can search free but it is pay per view.

There isn't much online Guernsey information. I ended up paying a researcher at the Priaulx Library to look for my ancestor's marriage and baptisms.

Regards,
Joy Langdon

Re: Mackenzie Deaths in Channel Islands - probably Guernsey

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 8:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Joy,
Many thanks for your help and one thing is at last tied down and that the date and place of death for Roderick MacKenzie. The family always suspected it was in the Channel Isles as we could not find it in mainland England. Would he be buried in a Church cemetery and if so which is the likeliest choice?

Now with regard to him in 1871 census then there have always been a number of options/rumours as to whether he had been married before and whether there were any children who are not known within the family. No one could find his birth or anything about his family before 1881 in Guernsey.

Roderick and Fanny Chaseau Matthews must have married in Guernsey around 1872-8 as their first child is Colin Murray Mackenzie abt 1878 and the second is Donald Chaseau Mackenzie abt 1879 both in Camberwell and the third or fourth child is Frank Mckenzie is born on 13th December 1884 on the Island. Fanny is in Dulwich, London in 1911 as a widow and it says she had 4 children 2 alive and 2 deceased. We know that Colin and Frank are alive then and so the deceased must be Donald and an unkown probably born on Guernsey before 1885/6. She is living with her son Frank and her sister Ann Agnes Matthews a spinster and a visitor, another spinster, called Emilee Robilliard both older than her.

If Roderick is in Camberwell in 1871 and he has a wife named Harriet born in Guernsey then that is probably how he could have met Fanny too. This also could tie down his birthplace as Canterbury, Kent. It begs the question as to how he met Harriet in the first place so did he spend time on Guernsey beofre he married Harriet and if so where and when.

Lots of interesting lines to follow now so thank you very much for your help and guidance.
Are there no online marriage records at all for Guernsey to trace his two marriages?

May I ask for the contact details of the Priaulx Library you used and a contact name if I need to use that avenue too please.

Once again many thanks

Kind regards
Michael Tench

Re: Mackenzie Deaths in Channel Islands - probably Guernsey

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 1:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Michael,

There is a free transcription of the Guernsey 1841 census at http://members.shaw.ca/jerseymaid/peterport9.html
which has a Roderick MacKenzie age 25, schoolmaster at Hubits, District 9, St Peter Port. Others in the household are
Catherine MacKenzie age 50, born England
Eliza age 25, Ind born England
Jean, age 20, born England
Elizabeth, age 20 born England
Francis, age 10, born Guernsey

There is a marriage on FamilySearch at St Mildred, Canterbury 3rd Aug 1811 of Roderick MacKenzie and Catharine Kennett.

The middle name Murray and names like Colin, Donald and Jean in the family suggest a Scottish origin. I am wondering if Roderick's father was a military man, that would explain the Scottish surname being found in Kent and the family moving around.

Information about the Priaulx Library website and their research service information is at
http://www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk/

I am afraid I don't know anything about burials and I don't know of any online marriage information.

Joy

Re: Mackenzie Deaths in Channel Islands - probably Guernsey

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 4:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks again Joy,

A great help and I have found this Roderick Mackenzie with his wife Harriet and 2 children in 1851 living in Westminster and then in 1861 in Camberwell. The first child is Alfred F G Mackenzie born in Guernsey and the second a Roderick J Mackenzie born in Westminster which all matches with the 1841 census and ties up again with Guernsey too.

It seems that Alfred Francis Gray Mackenzie dies in 1864 in Camberwell and a Roderick James Mackenzie dies in 1891 in Elham so these may be them.

In 1871 census Roderick and Harriet Mackenzie are still living in Camberwell but no sign of Roderick James Mackenzie their son. A death of Harriet is hard to find that matches her age and so they may have divorced or she may have died in Guernsey?

I wonder if the "Gray" in Alfreds name is a reference to Harriet's surname but I cannot find her marriage to Roderick and so it must likely be in Guernsey which again matches the facts.

A Roderick Mackenzie aged 32 is living in 1881 as a banker and married with a probable wife named Laura L Mackenzie, aged 33 and who is born in Guernsey (yet again). I canot find him in 1871 or 1891 and I think he dies as I said in Sep Qtr of 1891, so he should be in the census of 1891.

I think your hypothisis regarding the military may be correct and the Francis Mackenzie born in Guernsey maybe in the Navy in 1845 to 1855 and this point to a military connection of his father.

There must be some easy way to search the papers or records for the various marriages etc. and any Millitary records.

Thanks again

Michael
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