Macau - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

da Silva's in Macau who came from Goa India

joedasilva1967 — 2013-05-06 20:04:44Z

Does anyone have information about da Silva's who immigrated from Goa India to Macau, China? We have a verbal history that our Macau family came from Goa, India, but no names or dates.

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

joedasilva1967 — 2013-02-21 02:25:04Z

Dear Peggy and Leonard,

Thank you both for your posts. They have brought me great joy. I invited you to view my da Silva Tree. Just a forwarning that beyond Timotio Emmanuel Da Silva and Querina Filomena Farias on my tree I have no proff that the rest is correct, it's just guess work that I have been trying to validate.

Will you also invite me to look at your trees?

joedasilva@yahoo.com

I live in California and all of my family that were decendants of my Grandfather Guilherme Alberto Da Silva also live in California. So, one of us will be going to view the records from the club you mentioned.

I am not certian of the spelling of names as all came from memory, as our records were lost in the war from what we were told.

Thank you both again, I do look forward to talking with you.

Joe and Angie da Silva

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

lenrivero — 2013-02-20 03:25:30Z

Hi Peggy, of course we're related. I'm confused as to your message as we have been sharing information for years. Your grandmothers maden name was Ferras, her father, also my grandfather changed it from Ferraz. So my mother was Maria Alicia Ferras. Your grandmother Peggy was my Mother's bridesmaid.
I recently moved to Vancouver Canada. Hope to meet you in person one day. Leonard

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

lenrivero — 2013-02-20 03:15:45Z

Hi Joe, I can help you. My Mother's Mother was a da Silva. There was 5 da Silva families from Portugal that immigrated to Macau. Many married within each family so we're all related. My Mother's Father was Jacquine Ferras, he changed it from Ferraz. I have a family tree that goes up 13 generations to the 1700 and because they all had big families, I have hundreds of cousins. Most of which live in the San Francisco area. Ernesto da Silva is my cousin.
Send me your email, and I will send you my family tree so that you can track your ancestry. Where do you live? I live in Blaine, WA and Vancouver, Canada. My phone number is 778 710-3579 and my email address is lenrivero@msn.com. The Catholic Church in Macau burnt down and all records were lost, but there was a Portuguese who reconstructed all the information he could gather and published a three volumn book which is quite accurate now. There is a copy at the San Francisco Lusitana Club and you might wish to contact Maria Ruliz.

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

CameronReitmeier — 2013-02-19 21:10:18Z

Are you sure about the correct spelling of your family ancestors?. I have a number of ancestral cousins from Shanghai, all with similar spelling of their names and we may be related. Add me to your family tree and I will look at your tree. My mother was born in Shanghai and grew up with the da Silva boys. Her grandmother (my gr-grandmother) was Laura Farris. I also have many photos of Filomena, the da Silvas and contacts for living family members, as well as photos of gravestones in Hong Kong.

Keep in mind that all Portuguese look similar to each other and that look is very unique but not Asian.

My email address is denalillama@gci.net to add to your ancestry.com family tree.

~Peggy Brockman, mother of Cameron Reitmeier

Timotheo Emmanuel da Silva DOB: Jan 24 1871 Macau

joedasilva1967 — 2013-02-18 16:26:56Z

I'm at a dead end in my family tree as I am looking for the parents of my Greatgrand Mother Querina Filomena Faris. She was beleived to be 100% Portuguese but her photos suggest she maybe part asian.

She married my Greatgrand Father Timotheo Emmanuel da Silva before 1898 and they moved to Japan and lived in Kobe and in Yokohama. They had 6 children, Guilherme Alberto da Silva 1904, Ernesto Isidoro da Silva 1899, Julia Vicenta da Silva 1906, Jose Ricardo da Silva abt 1898, Emily Cacilia da Silva 1902, Johnathan "Johnny" da Silva abt 1900. Most of their children and grand children immigrated to the US after the war.

Timotheo Emmanuel da Silva was born on Jan 24 1874 in Macau. He died in Japan in 1947 on the Bluff in Yokohama, Japan. He was beleived to be 100% Portuguese but his photos suggest he maybe part asian.

Can anyone help me trace back to their parents?
I know they were both Catholic. Does anyone know how to contact the Cathloic church in Macua or in Hong Kong for records?

Does anyone know how to order birth certificats for people born in Hong Kong who only speek english? Is there perhaps someone who could help me do this?

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

joedasilva1967 — 2013-02-18 16:25:05Z

Re: Jael Botelho

sallangley — 2012-08-28 10:36:10Z

Hiya, gimme a shout on sal.langley@ntlworld.com

Re: Jael Botelho

snowcats1 — 2012-08-28 09:50:36Z

Jael Esther Botelho is my Great Grandma.......please get in touch.

Re: Din

Champlain9 — 2012-02-16 17:49:55Z

http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/acs_birth.html

Regards

British and Chinese Great Grandfather

smrodriguez48 — 2011-08-08 00:34:56Z

Our great grandfather Wong Teng Mo Was born in Macau to a british mother and chinese father. We estimated his birth somewhere around 1880 - 1890. He had one brother, which we know not to much about Wong Teng Feng. His wife Salome Madrazo is of portuguese and spanish descent. He came to Zamboanga, philippines around 1908 - 1910. He then changed his name to Santiago Wong Rodriguez. A lot of the paper work we had was burned in the 40's during the war and there is only one remaining relative that is alive that knows information.

So I just want to know:
1) What would be the best way to find any info on his mother and father?
2) Would any offices in the philippines carry information on his parents?
3) From what part of portugal did most people that inhabited Macau come from? Lisbon?
4) Is there any specific region of England that immigrated to Macau?

Thanks in advance!

Re: Seeking marriage and birth records from Macau

CameronReitmeier — 2011-06-16 01:46:44Z

My grandfather was a Lieutenant in the Shanghai Municipal Police in Shanghai. There are many pictures in the US National Archives (online) of the photos and files of the SMP. Also, try the website http://www.macanesefamilies.com/Joomla/index.php for your ancestry info. Finally, many of the vital records were destroyed in Shanghai by the Communists, however if you find the name of the churches in any records, you might contact the churches who still many of the records that were sent to neighboring countries.

Happy hunting.

dying in 1854 in Macao

tekootis — 2011-04-16 09:23:40Z

Captain NJ Lyons also know as Morrison John Lyons died here in 1854.

I have no idea of why? Can anyone help?

I was born in Macau - March 1967

takmlee — 2011-03-07 04:18:54Z

I have a 1968 affidavit of my birth in Macau.
My birth document is an Assentos De Nascimento (Entry of Birth). This affidavit was notarized 1 year after my birth.
According to this document, my mother says I was born in her apartment (therefore, no hospital birth certificate).
I have reason to believe I was adopted because my father wanted a son.

This document is a sworn affidavit and there were 2 witnesses: a husband and wife (I believe)
Tai Hoi (husband)
Chan Man Lok (wife)

Both were resident in Becos das Janelas, 8, 1st floor - Macau.

I know this is a long shot but if anyone knows any information about these 2 names, please notify me. Its only speculation, but I think these 2 people may be my birth parents.

I have attached a picture of their signatures (in Chinese) from the affidavit.

Din

laidin4728 — 2010-09-07 14:41:29Z

My father was born in Macau in 1945. He have 1 brother and 1 sister. They are both younger than him. My father didn't remember their names. My grandmother was a Chinese woman surname is FONG and she married my grandfather's name is Fasil DIN and he was a policeman in Macau but was originated from Pakistan. My father moved to Hong Kong with my grandfather in 1950/1951. My father didn't have any contact with my grandmother and his brother and sister since then. They may be adopted by some rich family. If anyone knows any info. Pls let me know ASAP,

If there is anyone that knows where I may get birth certificates for Macau, that would be very helpful.

Seeking marriage and birth records from Macau

ElizabethDutra — 2010-06-16 20:41:37Z

I was born in Macau in 1955, my parents were married in either Shanghai or Macau, I have three sisters and a brother that were also born in Macau that are older than I am. I have been trying to complete some of the family history on my mother's side, and trying to work on finding additional information from my father's side.

My father was Portugese and worked with the police/military police for Portugal. I know my father was born on the island of Pico, Azores, and raised on Faial, Azores, Portugal. After being put in a foster home in Lisboa, he then went to Shanghai/Macau, where he met my mother.

If there is anyone that knows where I may get marriage certificates for Shanghai and Macau, that would be very helpful.

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

lenrivero — 2010-04-20 02:25:40Z

Yes, you are my cousin. My grandfather was Jack Ferras and my mother, Alicia Ferras Rivero was 1st cousin to your mother Peggy. Contact me at lenrivero@msn.com for a copy of our family tree.
Leonard Carlos Rivero

Re: Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

CameronReitmeier — 2010-04-18 12:43:55Z

Hello Len. I believe we are related through Laura Ferras who is my great grandmother. My mother along with 5 of her kindergarten friends from Shanghai, all of whom are aging, have been meeting for Dim Sum each month in San Francisco for decades. I'm sure she and her friends would be interested in the work you are doing on behalf of the Macau Portuguese. Her father was a business trader out of Macau.

You can reach me at 907-644-4485. Be aware that I am responding through my son's Ancestry account. My name is Peggy Brockman. I look forward to hearing from you.

Re: ancesters

yonsenh — 2010-01-13 06:07:13Z

My Grandfather come from Canton China a town or village name Chung San (the writing look like that in spanish)to South America-Peru my real lastname endup Yonsen ,because my Granfather use to sign Yon Sen always in documents we found,also we find the name Chu ,my grandfather die in Peru 1891-1940,so my real last name is YON or YONG i'm really not sure, i have picture of my grandfather with his real name in chinese character,but in spanish he name was Enrique Yong(Yon)Chu

Re: Macanese

2004-08-09 01:11:54Z

Dear Telma, I was wondering if the Macanese who deny any mixed blood are Chinese or Portuguese or both? I'm not exactly sure I understand the definition of Macanese. I thought one definition is a mixed-race person from Macau, and another definition is anyone from Macau? Tony

Re: Pereira Familia Tree...any help is appreciated!

rbtbrown1 — 2008-03-07 06:01:17Z

Hi suzanna
My name is louise, I live in Australia. I don't think I have contacted you before. My husband was born in Hong Kong. His mother Maureen was also born in Hong Kong. Her grandmother on her fathers side was a Pereira. Dora was her name. We don't know much about her.Know one seems to know as most of my husband's descendants have passed away. I know she died in Hong Kong in 1952, aged 77years. She was married to a William Josiah Wilkinson. He was at one stage a warden at the Victoria gaol. He had seven sons and four daughters. My husband's grandfather was Frederick James Wilkinson. He and his wife migrated to Australia around 1960 I think.I know there was a Portugese settlement in Macau. I don't know much else. I would appreciated any info my

Re: Pereira Familia Tree...any help is appreciated!

carlinhopereira — 2008-01-22 14:01:16Z

from funchal (madeira) you have some pereiras living in Venezuela, I could help you build a pereira tree

Jael Botelho

sallangley — 2007-11-20 11:52:22Z

I understand that my great-aunt (by marriage) Jael Botelho was from Macau. She married my grandmother's brother Stanley Pearce. I'm interested in knowing Jael's family roots, I understand that her father was called William and that they both came to England in the early twentieth century. Thanks

Re: Fernandes girls from Brasil

Ryanmilligannexrs — 2007-03-28 18:18:50Z

Helena,

My family too came from Macau and we share the same name.... Do you know of anyone in your family named Hermangildo Ramos Fernandes? My grandfather Manuel Jose Fernandes left Macau and went to Portugal then moved to the US with his wife.... He always talked about his cousins that moved to Sao Paulo and Copa. I know this is a stretch (being that Fernandes is a large Family name), but it is worth a try. Thanks- Ryan Milligan

Seeking Portuguese decendants in Shanghai

lenrivero — 2006-11-27 13:33:52Z

Since early 1800, the British businesses in Shanghai employed many Portuguese from Macau to work in their Import/Export offices and banking institutions. The Portuguese were excellent clerical workers and many spoke English and Chinese which made them valuable in translating and supervising the Chinese workers. Most were paid a salary less than English citizens but more than local Chinese. Their middle class status gave them a very comfortable life style and many married into the Chinese population producing many children. After the Communist Liberation in 1949, most foreigners including the Portuguese left Shanghai leaving their children behind with their Chinese mothers. After half a century most of the Portuguese decendants lost contact with their parents and they blended into the Chinese community. Sometimes they were treated with prejudice by the Chinese population because of their mixed heritage so they tended to hide their Portuguese blood line. After 2000 Macau was returned to China, the old Portuguese Government held millions of dollars that had been earned through mostly Casino taxation. One of the things they did for the Macanese Communities that had spread all over the world was granted them with 12,000,000RMB for each social club. San Francisco with three clubs got equal shares, Vancouver has two clubs, There is one club in Toronto, Portugal, Australia and Brazil. Some clubs have as little as 200 members. Shanghai has an estimated 4000 Macanese and should be entitled to a grant. Any one in Shanghai who has a Portuguese heritage or knows of anyone who does is encouraged to contact me at my email address: lenrivero@msn.com. If there is a sufficient response, I intend to hold a banquet for our Macanese friends and form a Social Club in Shanghai.

Pereira Familia Tree...any help is appreciated!

suzanne23 — 2006-06-21 13:22:54Z

Hello,
I am looking for the familia for my great great Oma Adriana Meintje Pereira (her lineage is from Portugal)..born approximately 1855 in Macua, Goa or Portugal?)
She married in Indonesia to Hendrik Bosch (army officer from Holland) .
They had a daughter Johanna Christina Pereira Bosch who married Jules Marie Dom on 1 JUN 1896 in Djokjakarta,Indonesia

I am trying to find my Pereira familia! Obigado!
Adeus por agora :-)

Suzanna

Fernandes girls from Brasil

2005-06-22 20:27:04Z

I am still looking for my old friends from Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Their names are Flavia, Elvira and Elena Maria.
Family from Macau, father Emilio Fernandes from a family of 18 children, brother Heleno Fernandes immigrated to Portugal after the war.
If anyone know where they are please contact me.

Thank you.

Helena (d'Aquino)

from Sao Paulo

The Marques de Tavora

2005-05-20 03:52:15Z

Re: Macanese

2004-12-14 12:25:45Z

Obrigado Helena!

Thanks for the definition of Macanese...I probably qualify.

Where do you live now?

I hope to visit Macau...not sure when.

Recently purchased a CD by Paka for the song Macao.

Re: Macanese

2004-12-10 22:24:41Z

My family comes from Macau. They were there for 400 years. Initially they arrived from Portugal but intermarried so there is a considerable amount of mixtures. You are considered Macanese if your parents or grandparents are from there or even if you just wish to be one.

I am what they call "filho Macau" a child of Macau.

Hope it answers your question.

Helena

Re: Bontein, Edward

lenrivero — 2004-11-14 18:30:55Z

Re: ancesters

2004-10-13 20:15:09Z

You should probably post your query on the Suriname message boards because they would probably be able to help you with that information.

Bontein, Edward

grantfizz — 2004-09-04 17:01:35Z

Born Bengala, India., a British citizen.
Emigrated to Macau, 1835 and married Julia Maria Josefa Gracias.
They had 3 kids.
Their daughter, Francisca Josefa Gracias Bontein, married Joaquim? da Rosa.
I am Telma Maria da Rosa.
Any info on these people would be appreciated.

Re: Macanese

2004-08-14 12:44:06Z

Dear Telma,

What is my connection with Macau? Good question. It's just a long time interest and fascination. I have read almost everything I could find, in English, about Macau. Also looked at many pictures and scenes from movies e.g. Macao with Jane Russell & travel videos (usually with Hong Kong), studied maps of Macau, and have postage stamps from Macau. One of my interests is geography & have a master's degree from U of Minnesota, US Geography Department. Other interests include slide photography & gardening & Asia & the Pacific rim & comparative religions of the world.

Back in high school I studied Spanish. Then while I was supposed to be learning Spanish, I went to the public library and checked out a Portuguese/English book to see how close are Portuguese & Spanish. I recently purchased a Port/Eng dictionary. Am also interested in Chinese language. Unfortunately my Portuguese language skill is 0 & Chinese skill even less. I'd love to hear about you,

Obrigada, Tony

Re: Macanese

2004-08-09 15:32:39Z

Dear Tony,

Bothe definitions are acceptable. The people who deny the mixed blood want to think they are only of Portuguese extraction. This is highly unlikely as the Portuguese soldiers, traders, had to marry someone to start the colony and the historians detail marriages with Chinese, Malaccan, Japanese Christians etc. What is your connection with the Macanese? telma.

Reply to Telma

2004-08-05 02:43:48Z

Dear Telma,
Thanks very much for the message! Are you Macanese? Have you ever been to Macau? Do you live in Macau? If so, you are the first I've met.
How many languages do you speak? I only speak English, but am trying to learn a little Portuguese, Mandarin & Cantonese and hope to visit Macau someday. One of the books I have is "Macau Miscellany" by Shann Davies.
I have some relatives that are part-Dutch and my cousin married a Chinese woman from Taiwan. I know at least one cannonball from Monte Fort hit a Dutch ship in 1627.
I would love to hear anything you can tell me about Macau/Macao. I first learned of Macau from stamp collecting when I was about age seven.
Was trying to figure out if your surname is Grant or da Rosa or both. I live in Roseville, Minnesota, USA - 4th generation American. Rozycki means "rose family" in Polish. My father is 1/2 Polish & 1/2 Irish (O'Dea) & my mother is Norwegian (Skoe). I have an uncle living in the Philippines with a Filipina & her two kids, a cousin MD in Guam, & another cousin married to a Korean.
When I was a "bebe" I lived in Hawaii for a year and took a vacation there in 2000. I've a slide of a Portuguese costume from Bishop Museum, Honolulu & some from Honolulu
"Chinatown". Also read biography of Sun Yat Sen who lived in Macau & Hawaii. Sorry for rambling. I'd love to hear from you again.

Obrigado!

Tony

Re: Macanese

grantfizz — 2004-08-02 19:59:26Z

Dear Tony,

I am unaware of such mixes . Many Macanese hotly deny that they are of mixed blood at all. I am interrested in the Chinese and Dutch influx as I am sure my family has both. Any leads you have would be appreciated. Telma.

Macanese

2004-03-13 15:37:48Z

Are there any Macanese with American, Polish, Norwegian or Irish blood or relatives living in Macau? I've had a long time interest in and done a ton of reading about Macau. Hope to spend a couple weeks there walking and taking pictures without spending a fortune before I am too old. How's the health situation? Am also interested in China and Portugal.

ancesters

2001-05-17 07:17:14Z

my great-grandfatherleft macau in 1885?
go to suriname(sout-amerika

is there some one with this name?chan jong chu or chan yon chu