Hi I have just seen your old message posted in 2007 re Ellen Sargent. My husband grandmother was an Ellen Sargent married to Herbert Palmer,and his father was one of 9 children born to them. They lived in Weybridge Surrey where they are both buried. I dont know if this is the same Ellen Sargent but I believe her moth was Utsekanwa and her father David Wycliffe Sargent